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Working up a load for moose hunt

 
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:06 PM
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I do a lot of river hunting and in that case I have a 300. Wsm loaded with 180 grain partitions. My little brother is coming with me and he will be using that rifle if he is with me due to laws here in Canada. I also do a lot of clear cut and back lake hunting and in that instance I have loaded up 210 grain Bergers close too 2900 fps where shots are 300-700 yards sometimes a touch further. I know most moose are shot at 200 yards and closer but I believe that is because when you come around a bend on the river or the road tree right there and everyone passes on shots further.

3 years ago we got 2 bulls tags for a good area and only bulls we saw were together just a hair over 475 yards once we closed the distance. We had another gentlemen the following year pass up on a good good size bull cause he couldn't get close then 550, and during the spring fishing trip we had 13 moose spotted and 5 were over 350 yards (2 bulls, 1 spike, and 2 big cows) the rest were cows and calves with the exception if 1 bull all within 100 yards.

I emailed berger last night as I was suggested to speak with them and got my response today. To start I want to say fantastic service as they answer and helped me with everything, gave me load data, drop charts and anything they felt necessary to help answer. They said I would be perfectly capable and would be very happy with my set up but suggested I back off 1.5 grs if I was experienceing pressure signs . Other then that they said good luck, gave me a few instances where they themselves or customers face feed back using this combo.

I'm not trying to change people's mines here and thank you for all your suggestions. I was just confused why people would use it on an elk but not moose. I read a discussion here a few times saying elk were tougher animals yet they still suggested Bergers. That's where I was confused. I may load up some accubond or partitions for the 300. Winny as well for the close shots, but from what berger said, from what I have been seeing with elk been taken almost regligiously with Bergers :P I would like to test them out
Hey Matt how you doing? I am guessing you are hunting in northern Ontario? I live In nothern Alberta so our moose are about the same size on average. I will not try to change your mind on what you are wanting to use bullet and load wise for your moose hunt and you might not have the time now to work up a load before you head out. I also shoot 300 WM among various other calibers and if I am going for moose with my 300 it is stuffed with 200 grain accubonds. The 200 shoots plenty flat to 500yards and will put the hurt on a moose at point blank range too. If you are in the rut in your area while you are hunting and you come up on a bull that has been wallowing and is caked in mud the accubond or another bullet similar will help you out more than the Berger will. Don't get me wrong I like Bergers just fine and use them to hunt with and have taken game with them but have never considered them for moose and probably will not in the future. Have never had any issues with the Accubond or a Partition and a Moose when I did it right. I have hit a couple of moose too far back on the run with my 300 but was able to follow up and finish in short order. I can't say one way or the other if those two moose would have dropped if they were hit with bergers but there was no lack of penetration with the Partitions even through a gut full of browse. On Moose I will take penetration any day. Hope you make out well with your hunt.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:06 PM
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Hey Matt how you doing? I am guessing you are hunting in northern Ontario? I live In nothern Alberta so our moose are about the same size on average. I will not try to change your mind on what you are wanting to use bullet and load wise for your moose hunt and you might not have the time now to work up a load before you head out. I also shoot 300 WM among various other calibers and if I am going for moose with my 300 it is stuffed with 200 grain accubonds. The 200 shoots plenty flat to 500yards and will put the hurt on a moose at point blank range too. If you are in the rut in your area while you are hunting and you come up on a bull that has been wallowing and is caked in mud the accubond or another bullet similar will help you out more than the Berger will. Don't get me wrong I like Bergers just fine and use them to hunt with and have taken game with them but have never considered them for moose and probably will not in the future. Have never had any issues with the Accubond or a Partition and a Moose when I did it right. I have hit a couple of moose too far back on the run with my 300 but was able to follow up and finish in short order. I can't say one way or the other if those two moose would have dropped if they were hit with bergers but there was no lack of penetration with the Partitions even through a gut full of browse. On Moose I will take penetration any day. Hope you make out well with your hunt.
Thank you very much for your post, i was very confident in using a berger at first but a little skeptical now with all these posts. I do live in Ontario and hunt Northern Ontario like you said. Unfortunately like you said i dont know if ill have time to really work up a proper load, seeing as i leave in 1 week and picked up extra shifts between now and then trying to help before i take off. I was going load a couple accubonds if i had time but new gun i cant really get a good load before there so was going just pick up a factory box and test them up there out to a couple hundred and anything past would be berger. If i cant get time to load up some accubonds and test them. There is very little data of bergers and moose so i am thinking i will try them anyways but bring some accubonds and hopefully get some load data before i go!
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:58 PM
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Re: Working up a load for moose hunt

If you are going to go with factory you have some choices with real good bullets. There is the nosler ammo loaded with either the partition or accubond in 200. Winchester loads the 180 Etip which is a serious penetrating bullet with a pretty good BC. I have used them in 7mm and they work pretty sweet and I have never found one. Not as fun as working up your own load and way more expensive but they do offer you an option. I have hunted moose down there years ago when I was living there. Souix lookout was about the best I saw down there for big bulls. The next best was just north west of Kap ,and not too far out of Bracebridge was ok way back if you got in deep and worked hard. Hope you smoke a big one and you do not have to get him out of a swamp. What area are you hunting if you dont mind me asking.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:44 PM
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If you are going to go with factory you have some choices with real good bullets. There is the nosler ammo loaded with either the partition or accubond in 200. Winchester loads the 180 Etip which is a serious penetrating bullet with a pretty good BC. I have used them in 7mm and they work pretty sweet and I have never found one. Not as fun as working up your own load and way more expensive but they do offer you an option. I have hunted moose down there years ago when I was living there. Souix lookout was about the best I saw down there for big bulls. The next best was just north west of Kap ,and not too far out of Bracebridge was ok way back if you got in deep and worked hard. Hope you smoke a big one and you do not have to get him out of a swamp. What area are you hunting if you dont mind me asking.
I am no where near souix lookout but past kap. Area 22-23. Are you from Ontario of just spend sometime hunting it?
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:49 AM
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Re: Working up a load for moose hunt

Was stationed there years ago for six years when I was in my late 20's. Have been back from time to time for a bit of hunting with my last trip in 2011 for spring turkey. Hoping to get back next year for some wood duck hunting.
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:37 AM
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Re: Working up a load for moose hunt

I guess I am waaaayyy old school! I would use what I used on my last moose hunt. A Swift A-Frame! I know it will kill a moose no questions. Not trying to start a fracas or anything but, I think some folks get to hung up on trying to get a bullet to do something they, (the hunter) aren't sure it can do!! But, thank goodness we have the freedom to do what we wish, (almost).
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