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Is Win brass really this bad?

 
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:03 AM
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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

Any brass can get beat up during transit. Do your inspection after the cases have been fireformed. I bet you will feel much better about the quality.

Have used Win 308 brass for many years and it has always shot well.

Jerry
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:06 PM
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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

Thanks guys. I agree about cases getting beat up but when I saw the shoulders being uneven that throws off the neck. Went to Cabela's last night with my Sinclair gauge and got a different lot #. One of the guys there shoots LR and suggested the same as you folks, shoot the brass and see how it works afterward. He was surprised how the shoulder moved back and forth when I spun them.
So I'm going to fire-form with 165gr Nosler BT's and ball powder. After seeing .008 runout and that neck or FL sizing didn't help I got worried. Btw, there were about 25 out of 100 that were satisfactory after neck-sizing.
How do you feel about using my VLS 308 for the fire-forming to save wear and tear on my new VSF? Am sure the reamers aren't the same but can there be much difference in factory chambers? Wait, maybe I don't want to know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Have also seen uneven case mouths on all my Win brass (222, 223 and 308) and must be a function of the brass forming process. A quick spin on the trimmer fixes that right up.

JB, I paid 8.99 per 50 count bag.

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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

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How do you feel about using my VLS 308 for the fire-forming to save wear and tear on my new VSF?

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Any thoughts on this?
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Old 07-11-2005, 10:36 AM
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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

Would you be willing to do an experiment?? Load up 5 of your best brass and 5 of your worst and shoot 5 shot groups with both and see how different they really are. I realize this isn't enough statistically but, I am very curious to see what the difference will be. Let us know if you do that. Tonight I'm loading up some 300 wby with a known accuracy load with 180 pars and will shoot them with three different case brands, hornady, wby, and rem to see if there is a difference in impact at 300 yds and will chrono results but this is gonna happen later this summer. 92 degrees and 300 wby's make for long barrel cooldowns.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:38 AM
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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

I don't mind doing that test but I'm fresh out of Wildcat bullets which constitutes the only load I have so far for the 308. It may be a bit till I can do it. I planned to fire-form my 100 cases of new brass with 165gr Nosler BT's first and then work up a load using 175gr SMK bullets.
I'll post the results later. Not knowing which load shoots best with the 175gr SMK may invalidate the test.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

Which wildcats are you shooting?

I may have a couple of hundred 169.5s that I'd part with. That just proved to not be as effective as the wildcat 210s in my 300 rum.

You can email me if interested.

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Re: Is Win brass really this bad?

Thanks Bill, email sent. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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