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Why not Barnes?

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Unread 10-31-2006, 10:44 PM
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Re: Why not Barnes?

Basically, it all boils down to impact velocity requirements to open the bullet. Most of Barnes' bullets require a very high impact velocity to open up reliably in comparison to Accubonds, Mk's, or Ballistic tips which means you need a fire breathing super mag or you have to shoot your animal at relatively close range (by this forum's standards).

The new MRX's show some great long range promise but at over $1 per bullet, I can almost buy 3 accubonds for the same money.

If they can figure out a way to make the MRX's cheaper and if they made them in some heavy-for-caliber weights, I would surely give them a go. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Unread 11-01-2006, 06:50 AM
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Re: Why not Barnes?

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Unread 11-01-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: Why not Barnes?

I have been reloading for a long time and a buddy asked me almost the same question. He said I see alot of bullets here in your stock pile and they are all Nosler and Sierra, Where's the Barnes? as he pulled a box from his pocket to give me for his 25wssm. Keep in mind I had 2 very accurate loads for his gun 1 was a ball.tip 100grn Nosler and the other was a 100grn Sierra match both shoot to 1/2-3/4 center to center 5 rounds. I may be wrong but to me this is an excellent group. He procieded to ask the question again so I did not answer and took his box of pills. The short version 1 1/4 is the absolute best I could get I do not know what I did wrong or what after so many round I just couldn't find what I was looking for, I tried everything I could and the best was AA2700 but this still is NOT good. He asked what happened you have always been able to get good loads for all my guns (6 to be exact) I then answered his question and for 1/2 the money you 3 times the accuracy. I might add the bergers are great bullets as well.

I think the main problem with the barnes is they do not have much of a window It seamed as a .1 grain one way or the other blah I don't know.

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Unread 11-02-2006, 07:26 PM
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Re: Why not Barnes?

The other issue with Barnes is that they are like the boy who cried wolf.

For years there bullets had piss poor accuracy, now these new TSX might be a whole lot better, but, the damage is done.

Anyone (myself included) who had that crappy barnes accuracy does not want to be bothered trying TSX or MRX or any other barnes bullet. Besides the BC stinks!
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Unread 11-03-2006, 09:10 AM
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This year I am going to shoot Barnes X Triple Shock bullets 168GR in my .300 win mag. I was on the Barnes site quit awhile back and noticed that the BC had changed, so I phoned and taked to a guy there at Barnes and he told me that Barnes changed the ogive of the bullet, which will make the bullet alot more accurate. I questioned him about the low BC and he told me the BC had nothing to do with accuracy. He said that with the change in the ogive of the bullet, the bullet will be more accurate, and that is what he said Barnes is striving for.
Both myself and my buddy are shooting 168GR Triple shocks out of our .300 win mags, and the accuracy is pretty good. I just can't wait to shoot something with my new gun and bullet combo.
I was out shooting last night and shot a 3/4" 3 shot group at 100 yards with Triple shocks. I have yet to shoot a animal yet, but I am hoping that the perform better than the Accubonds that I shot last year.
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Unread 11-14-2006, 11:50 AM
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I was finally able to shoot my first deer with my new gun. I shot a mule deer doe at about 75 yards, and my buddy filled his doe tag with about a 300 yard shot. We both shoot Tikka .300 win mags. We are both shooting 168gr Triple shocks with Reloader19. I shot my deer high in the back, and the doe dropped instantly, and my buddy's doe out a 300 yards dropped instantly as well.
After we were done with our deer we shot a few targets, from about 200 yards out to about 400 yards. From the shooting that we did these Triple shocks shot good on both does that were shot, and also the accuracy was also good on the targets that we shot at these distances.
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Unread 11-14-2006, 01:49 PM
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Re: Why not Barnes?

I am shooting the Federal Premium 165 tsx in my 300 mag this year. I have only shot the load one time and I shot a 3/4 inch 100 yard group. Not as good as my handloads but they will do for this season. I will repost when I see how they perform on game.
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