Well alright if you wish to compare apples to apples
Here is the break down on my 280 ackley Improved
Nosler brass $60 for 50. $1.20 a case say 10 loadings a case $0.12
Nosler accubonds $25 for 50 $0.50 bullet
Powder 61grs H4831 $25 a lb $0.22
114 loads per lb
Primers $34 per 1000 $0.034
That works out to $0.84 a round which = out to be $16.80 a box.
Factory Ammo Winchester Supreme Ballistic tip $34 a box (new cabela's mag) Remington corelokts are cheaper yet at $28. Handloading cost about 50% what factory will run you. For the average shooter who shoots less then 100rds a year (5 boxes) that would be a "savings" of $80 a year considering he shot his full 100rds. For a good reloading setup comprised of RCBS and redding gear will run $400. That means it will take 5 years to pay for itself.
brass $28/100 /10 = $0.028
Ballisic tip $19/100 $0.19
Powder $25 lb IMR4895 25gr 280 loads $0.09
Primers $34 per 1000 $0.034
$0.34 a round = $6.80 a box
Factory Fiocchi 50gr Vmax
200rds for $140 = $0.70
Again about 50% savings...
Now here is the PROBLEM....
Factory guy----Buys 2 boxes of shells for the .280 ackley $34x2=$68. Sight the gun in shoot at a coyote or two, maybe a chuck then save the rest for deer and elk season. Total yearly ammo expenditures... $68
Reloader guy who has a reloading setup thats was a gift (Yes you can still dream).. However 1lb of powder $25, 2 boxes of bullets $40, primers $3.40, brass $120. Go to the range a couple times, work up loads, try new stuff, shoot coyotes/rabbits/chucks/squirrels...$188.4!!!! Drats out of components have to go buy more!! (at least the brass is free for at least 9 more go arounds hopefully)
And that is why reloading doesn't save you any money whatsoever
Originally Posted by winmag
I can see where your comming from on part of your post, but I gotta say I very strongly dissagree with the statement about not saving any money. You cannot put your time into the equasion period. It is a hobby or a personal intrest, or a quest, or a necesity, but you cant put a price on it. unless you consider your rifle a worthless money pit that you just have to keep feeding and isnt worth the time and money invested to make it shoot better. I suppose if thats your frame of mind then,.....ya buy factory ammo. But if you look at the numbers ****about $6.00 per box of 20 vs $35.00-54.00**** then add in how much better it will shoot if you have even 1 ounce of tallent involved in your handloading technique, Id say it MORE THAN SAVES YOU MONEY, infact Id say it PAYS YOU BACK DOUBLE what you put into it. if your gonna put in range time and not deligate it to ''wasted time and $'' then you gotta look at loading the same way.
Heres where I agree with you;
Everyone who loads agrees that case prep sucks! but most anyone will tell you you get out what you put into it. If you want your rifle to shoot better invest the time and $ into loading equipment. If your lazy and have absolutely 0 tallent what-so-ever, and consider hitting a pie plate at 100 yds accurate then you probably wouldnt shoot your rifle enough to enough to pay for the equipment anyway. This opinion includes that percentage of folks that have a rifle that likes a particular factory load, and practices once a year with it. Loading equipment probably wont do you much good either.
But practice builds confidence, and accuracy builds confidence , and confidence builds a fire under your butt to shoot more witch also makes it harder to recoup your money ''quickly'', but eventually you will recoup that initial investment, and have a much more accurate rifle to boot.