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Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

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Unread 08-12-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

I don't like explosive bullets either, but there's not much in the way of good 25 cal high BC bullets. The TSX's are good bullets. Nosler has just come out with E-Tips which are like TSX's, but IMO a little better. Better BC, and a little tougher, and open up a little more. They don't have any in the 25 cal yet. Maybe in another year or two.

Hopefully your Retumbo Load will match your BDC or close enough to fudge. Trueblue has some real good velocity with his Retumbo and TSX's.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

Thanks True Blue, that was the answer I was looking for. How long is your barrel?
Thanks again, I've got to break down and get a cronograph....
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Unread 08-12-2008, 11:52 AM
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Re: Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

Yea, trueblues numbers put my mind at ease. I wrote nosler about 3 months ago concerning the e-bullet for 25 cal, they said they expect them in the next 12 months. The TSXs group very well and I've shot a lot of deer with them, but I always want MORE selection.

I never thought much of these BDC scopes, but this one is within an inch or two all the way out to 500 yards. Beats the heck out of dialing up the MOA or worse, guessing and playing kentucky windage.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

24" barrel on a Savage 25-06. Only Savage I own at present, but very accurate rifle with that bullet/load combo. I use Barnes TSX on everything under 500 yards for hunting, and Bergers for long range, but can't get the Berger's to fly out of this particular rifle.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Velocities for 25-06 and Retumbo

I can't Berger's to fly right out of my 25-06 either, I think the twist rate is too slow and the berger VLD are much longer than the same weight bullet in the Noslers.

My Leupold VX-L Target with the Varmint reticules MOA of drop vs Actual MOA of drop
Range Actual drop in MOA Drop in MOA to the reticule 200 yard zero
300 1.80 1.81
400 3.98 4.13
500 6.52 7.02
600 9.32 9.35

As you can see, the range that is off the most is 500 yards and itís .5 MOA high. An MOA is 5.236 inches at 500 yards so the actual impact point is roughly 2.5 inches higher than the 500 yard cross hair. That is VERY COOL, you range them, put the right cross hair on them and pull the trigger. Iíve shot 3 inch groups with this gun and load at 400 yards and one 5 inch group with five shots spread out in 100 hard increments to 500 yards aiming dead at the bulls eye with the appropriate reticule. I did that just to prove to a buddy how close the reticules were to being dead onÖ

The MOA listed of the reticules is on the big triangle, you can adjust it by running the power up and down, get the correct setting for your load and mark your scope.

Now my step son has one and shoots a 300 RUM and the only way we could get it close was to use a 100 yard zero and shoot the main reticule at 100 and 200, then the 300 400 and 500 reticules were less than half an MOA off, but 600 was off too far to use. That 300 RUM is the flattest shooting gun Iíve ever seen, but it KICKS like a mule.

I might cut and past this into a post for scopes, for people that don't know how they work...

Thanks for the help!
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