Re: Small Base Die???
Thanks everyone for the reassurances, I had in mind that this should work fine but not having tied it as of yet, I figured why not ask. I have WAY too many irons in the fire right now as it is, and am still slowly working on getting my loading stuff back in some sort of organized fashion from the pack up, (read throw everything in waterproof containers,) from the storm last year. Getting closer but still got a ways to go.
I appreciate all you have posted, and no you haven't even come close to ruffling any feathers. Here is a drawn out explanation of what I hope to accomplish from this.
I have three different .243's, and quite a bit of once fired brass. Most is from years ago, and has been in storage. I only shot one of them for the most part through the years but aquired another a year or so ago and it has rekindled my interest.
The 25-06 cases in question were given to me, they are once fired, but not in either of my rifles, and will have to be sized in a SB die or trashed, as they still will not fit in either of my 2 chambers after FL sizing. I have one factory standard 25 and another custom built AI 25 for which I would like to use these cases in. The rifle they were fired in has since been re-chambered to a 257 WTBY so it was no longer needed by that person.
The 270 cases are mostly new once fired range brass that I collected from folks who did not reload. I also have a very large amount from my own personal shooting through the years. Since I only have one at this time, no big issues on them.
Surplus cases in both 308, and 30-06 I also have quite a bit of and both of them will get the SB treatment before being loaded. Some will feed any one of my 3 30-06's and some will be available for conversion to other calibers. Either way I will still need to get one more SB die.
As for my reasoning behind this. Your correct in your statement to use "x" amount of cases for each rifle. I generally do so and then stick with those cases until they are rendered useless or lost in the field. My goal behind reducing them all back as close to factory specs as I can, is so that when I do need to start up with another 50 rounds for a particular the cases will already be in a state that I can use for any of the rifles I choose to run them through. As for the work getting them there, not a biggie, I do some here and some there until I get them all processed. Some I run through my progressive which makes it rather quick.
I spoke with one of the fellows from Redding just yesterday about their SB body die, he mentioned that there should be no issues running them through. It does not have an expander, which I would have removed anyway, and it will for the most part only size the middle and bottom portions of the smaller caliber brass. He also mentioned that if using it to just touch the shoulder it should not cause any headspace issues. This will work just fine for me if I run them through the progressive having the SB in the first stage and the FL in the second. All of the cases in question are smaller in caliber than the SB die will be. In other words, I am looking at running the 243's through the 308 die and the 25 & 270's through the 30-06 SB die. As to the necks getting smaller they should remain the same as nothing will be touching in this area.
This was really not an issue for me until the hurricane last year. I had most of the cases stored in cardboard boxes, and in preperation for the storm hitting, I consolidated them into plastic containers,(five gallon buckets with screw on lids). As such, at the time, I wasn't worried so much about which went where or to which rifle, as much as keeping them together and from getting wet when the thing hit. Where we are, we had the potential of getting upwards of several feet of water in our house, and there is only so may things you can put up on top of other stuff. My loading components were not at the top of the list for being elevated. Fortunately for us we only got enough in my shop area to get the floor wet and after a day or so with the blowers all was fine again. The rest of the house came through fine, less a few shingles.
Since then I have been running tumblers just about every weekend we have been home getting it all nice, clean and shiny. Sorting it out by brands, and calibers. This has been more of a pain than the sizing ever will be, as I am at the point where my arms are no longer long enough to focus in on the head stamped names. So I sit in the living room floor with one of those extending lighted magnafying glasses inspecting cases and sorting into piles. Once at they have been sorted, they are being processed for loading, then put into plastic bags by brand, and then stored in ammo cans per caliber. Then if and when I need them I pull out enough for a batch and go for it. One thing I learned from this past storm is that you can store a LOT of stuff in ammo cans, and they stack nicely and are small enough to be put out of the way. So this has been my overall quest aside from getting things back into order. To be able to have it all in containers which will be water tight, and can be moved or stacked quickly and not have to worry about them in the event things get bad.
My loads are not overly specific. Except for the pump, I could shoot them in any of my like caliber rifles. I generally work up mid ranged loads which I try to test in everything for that caliber. If one shoots it better so be it, I like to be able to grab a box and a particular rifle and hit the woods knowing I can at least hit within 2" at 100yds with the particular load. Generally this ends up being closer to 1". With the pump I have to keep it loaded to levels that will function with the rotating lugs, and that will feed from the shorter magazines. No biggie there either. They are easily kept separated and I only shoot a box or less a year through it anyway.
Anyway, again I do appreciate your input on this, and I am sorry if this has gotten somewhat confusing about my intended goals. More about being able to salvage and use what brass I have on hand rather than spend cash I don't have available to buy more. Trust me if I could I would simply just purchase a thousand or so Lapua for each caliber and be done with it. Instead I will happily use up what I have on hand. It should be enough to last both myself and my grandsons for years to come, if the current administration doesn't do anything stupid in the next couple of years.
Mike / Tx
"Heck why would I lie, most folks don't believe the truth when I tell them"