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Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

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Old 10-21-2013, 09:54 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

bout 8 yrs ago I started using my .300 wm on everything, deer, elk, and antelope. I use 180 grain bullets and have seen no meet loss ans certainly nothing "blowing up". I have taken 7 white tails, five antelope and an elk so far.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:21 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

That sounds pretty good. Do you have a recommended bullet in that (or any) weight?
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:56 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

To the original poster of this thread:

The experts on the reduced load using H4895 would be Hodgdon since they are the ones recommending it in the first place. A phone call to them should clear up any questions you might have including the gas pressure action cycling requirements.

They even have some info on their website that pertains to the reduced loadings.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:42 AM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

I plan to call them when I get home. I will post my results here when I get to the range.
Thanks again
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Old 11-08-2013, 03:30 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

I agree with all who said use bullets that are less likely to "explode". The use of monolithic bullets such as Barnes TTSX for example will stay together under any velocities that you can achieve with a 300 win mag. The "blowing up" of a deer as it is described is caused when a jacketed bullet hits a target and fragments, this sends many small pieces of core and jacket throughout the target. I have been using barnes ttsx exclusively for short range hunting in southwest PA where deer hunting is often much like rabbit hunting. I have hit deer with a 300 win mag at close range (inside 50 yards) with a max charge of H4350 under a 150 grain ttsx with little more damage than I remember grandpa's 30-40 krag inflicting. I think unless recoil is the real concern behind reducing your loads, your best bet is just get different bullets. IMO

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Old 11-08-2013, 04:17 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

It is possible. Speer has a reduced load for the 300win mag in their reloading manual. I would start there. That being said I will guess that a reduced load will not have the recoil to work the semi auto action of your BAR. This is not the end of the world but will mean that you have to cycle the action after each shot. This would be annoying enough for me not to worry about a reduced load.
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Old 11-09-2013, 01:42 PM
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Re: Secret Evil Plan-300 Win Mag

I've loaded the 60% reduced loads of H4895 in my .308 with 110 gr. VMax bullets. Averaged 1690 fps. Recoil was like shooting a .410 I would not hesitate to slip one behind the ribs of a deer under 100 yards. My 5 and 9 year-old can shoot one of Daddy's BIG guns with that load no problem. The bulkiness of the reduced load powders should increase the safety margin and avoid the chance of secondary explosions. If you're talking about a 100 yard and in stand hunting gun who cares about squeezing out sub MOA accuracy? If you can't keep it inside the ribs of a deer at short range with a rifle shooting 3" groups you shouldn't be hunting.

One of the Hodgdon manuals from a few years ago had a whole article on Youth and Reduced loads. That's the beauty of handloading you can tailor your loads to odd ball concepts like this. Makes perfect sense to me.

My full bore Varget load with the 110's goes 3,050 fps.

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