close
Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Reloading

Reloading Berger Bullets

Reply

Scratched or rusted Dies

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 01-03-2010, 01:00 AM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Little Falls, MN
Posts: 251
Scratched or rusted Dies

I have a problem with a set of RCBS dies. I haven't used them for a while. Recently , I tried to reload a couple of test rounds . To my horror the cases went in like a bad clutch on a 409 . Can it be cleaned or is completely shot ? Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  •   #2  
    Unread 01-03-2010, 01:49 AM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2005
    Location: Alaska
    Posts: 4,646
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    If it's just a light surface corrosion, I think you can salvage the dies. If it's very heavily pitted, especially if the pitting runs all the way up into the neck and shoulder area, then you're better off purchasing replacement dies.

    You'd be able to clean up the body portion of the die by wrapping some 220 or 320 grade quality 3M emery cloth around a bore brush of the proper size to put the emery cloth in firm contact with the inside surface of the die and have at it with a cordless variable speed drill.

    I just recently opened up a 7mm Rem Mag Redding Body Die in this manner so it wouldn't work my brass so much. These resizing dies are harder than the dickens - heat treated. You won't have to worry about taking too much material off with the emery cloth. It will take a lot of sanding to open the die up 0.003" - 0.004" once you're through the surface rust and into competent steel.

    Depends how much your time is worth to you. Standard grade reloading dies aren't terribly expensive.
    Reply With Quote

      #3  
    Unread 01-03-2010, 06:02 AM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2009
    Location: Little Falls, MN
    Posts: 251
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    Thanks for the tip. Do they get plugged with sizing lube ? How do you clean them ?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by phorwath View Post
    If it's just a light surface corrosion, I think you can salvage the dies. If it's very heavily pitted, especially if the pitting runs all the way up into the neck and shoulder area, then you're better off purchasing replacement dies.

    You'd be able to clean up the body portion of the die by wrapping some 220 or 320 grade quality 3M emery cloth around a bore brush of the proper size to put the emery cloth in firm contact with the inside surface of the die and have at it with a cordless variable speed drill.

    I just recently opened up a 7mm Rem Mag Redding Body Die in this manner so it wouldn't work my brass so much. These resizing dies are harder than the dickens - heat treated. You won't have to worry about taking too much material off with the emery cloth. It will take a lot of sanding to open the die up 0.003" - 0.004" once you're through the surface rust and into competent steel.

    Depends how much your time is worth to you. Standard grade reloading dies aren't terribly expensive.
    Reply With Quote
      #4  
    Unread 01-03-2010, 08:09 AM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2009
    Location: NW OHIO
    Posts: 325
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    I would remove the decapping rod and try to polish the inside of the die.
    JB bore paste or polishing compound should work.
    Reply With Quote
      #5  
    Unread 01-03-2010, 04:56 PM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2005
    Location: Alaska
    Posts: 4,646
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by REDHEAD View Post
    Thanks for the tip. Do they get plugged with sizing lube ? How do you clean them ?
    If all you've got is some gunked up lube and dust/dirt in the dies, then forget my first post and simply disassemble the dies and soak them in gasoline or some other solvent to loosen up and remove the grime.

    If you've got some corrsion of the steel that needs removed or smoothed up then follow my first post.

    First thing I do with any new set of dies, or any set of newly purchased used dies, is disassemble the dies, degrease in gasoline and swab inner surfaces clean, blow dry with compressed air, and then spray them with some corrosion protectant like a silicone spray, so they won't corrode and pit over time in storage.

    I presumed you had some steel corroding with my initial response. Sorry if I got started in the wrong direction.

    Last edited by phorwath; 01-04-2010 at 03:26 AM.
    Reply With Quote
      #6  
    Unread 01-04-2010, 01:42 AM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2009
    Location: Little Falls, MN
    Posts: 251
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    I don't know. I haven't used them in a while . I can't see anything wrong , but it seems to scuff the case pretty good. I had to use RCBS size lub to size a few. Its far from smooth . Guess I'll end up buying a new set if gas doen't work. Thanks much.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by phorwath View Post
    If all you've got is some gunked up lube and dust/dirt in the dies, then forget my first post and simply disassemble the dies and soak them in gasoline or some other solvent to loosen up and remove the grime.

    If you've got some corrsion of the steel that needs removed or smoothed up then follow my first post.

    First thing I do with any new set of dies, or any set of newly purchased used dies, is disassemble the dies, degrease in gasoline and swab inner surfaces clean, blow dry with compressed air, and then spray them with some corrosion protectant like a silicone spray, so they won't corrode and pit over time in storage.

    I presumed you has some steel corroding with my initial response. Sorry if I got started in the wrong direction.
    Reply With Quote
      #7  
    Unread 01-06-2010, 07:42 PM
    Junior Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Posts: 6
    Re: Scratched or rusted Dies

    I can't seem to find if you stated the type, Pistol Carbide or Steel or Rifle Dies

    If the dies are NOT Carbide or if the dies are Rifle You do need to use some sort of case lube on each case you resize

    Only pistol Carbide dies do not need lube on each Case and it never hurts

    There is a exclusion to every rule and this is no different

    You did state that "I had to use RCBS size lub to size a few." This makes me wonder which type Die your using and my reason for writing the above.

    I have used several lubes and really prefer Imperial Sizing Die Wax it works very well

    good luck

    Last edited by 300_Sendero; 01-06-2010 at 08:23 PM.
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes


    Similar Threads for: Scratched or rusted Dies
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    I scratched a barrel *video* 308 nate Gunsmithing 6 08-27-2011 09:15 AM
    Help - rusted dies wild_musk Reloading 5 07-24-2011 10:02 PM
    Cases scratched? BowElkStalker Reloading 3 01-30-2010 02:53 PM
    Scratched the Chamber Shoulder brianwy77 Gunsmithing 9 09-22-2009 10:16 PM
    Rusted Action and scope deerhuntermike Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 2 06-25-2003 10:17 AM


    All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
    All content ©2010-2015 Long Range Hunting, LLC