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Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

 
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Old 07-28-2014, 02:08 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Will these work with RCBS press?

they work with all presses. single stage that is

they are just shell holders but they are machined so that you can just change the shell holder to adjust your head space.

just follow the instructions and they work great.
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:05 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Will these work with RCBS press?
They do work bit you have to make sure that the deepest setting in the set allows you to seat your case deeper. The issue I had was that the lowest holder was the same as the holder I was using. The rest of the holders in the set reduced the amount of sizing.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:48 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Hello guys I figured I stop by and talk in this forum since I bought a Savage LRH in 6.5x284 about a month or so ago. I finally got to shoot some handloads today and here were my best groups

I am using 46.2 and 46.7 grains of IMR 4831 powder with the 140vlds seated at an OAL of 3.175

The tightest grouping was the 46.7 grains in the first picture. Outside to Outside of the group was .943 and point of impact was .679 I know this gun will shoot better because it was shooting factory nosler accubonds better. I think I need to adjust the seating depth to help shrink up that grouping. Do you recommend going lower or higher on the depth from my original OAL? I thought of even trying a few rounds at the recommended seating depth of 3.228 that berger suggests. This is my first time loading bergers and I'm really having a pain.

Thanks for any answers

Joe

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Old 07-31-2014, 08:45 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Well, of course you need to adjust seating depth, that is just one of the major critical components, some argue the most, to get the best accuracy. Also, measuring COAL is worthless to me, unless your COAL is a bullet seated in the lands of the barrel and your starting point. Otherwise, it means nothing regarding the the throat of your barrel and the seating depth of your bullets.

I have 3 barrels with 3 different COAL measuresments to the lands. However, I also don't measure COAL, from case base to bullet tip. I measure Case Base to Ogive using a hornady tool.

OK, on another note. Shootingmathews- if you have not done this it might be time you try it. Measure all your cases and sort by 1 grain differences. For example I sorted my brass from 194 to 195 grains and 193 to 194 for this last batch of nosler brass. I keep them separated. This is all done after trimming etc, no primers. Then sort your bullets by .1 grains. In my last batch of Bergers they went from 139.8 to 140. A few are 139.8 and I use them to get on paper or test pressure. For groups I shoot the same weight brass and bullets. Just a thought. If you want to get to the next level measure bearing surface of each lot of bullets. I had a lot once that had .030 difference in a box of 100. That is horrible quality control. It was a box of target bullets so I didn't care really but the difference in bullet performance is surprising with that much bearing surface difference.
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Ok guys. I have a ? On base to shoulder length. I mentioned before that my full length die did not bump the shoulder at all. Well I decided to try again. This time I dropped the die down a turn to make sure I was camming over tight on it. I measured a case with a headspace comparator, ran it through the die and measured again. Then did a second case the same way. On both cases I got a bump of .0025". Do you think that is enough?? I chambered both pieces of brass and they chambered easily. Neither had the snugness that the bolt did before the bump.

Brent.
I usually do not sort brass by weight and get close enough results for my needs on most rifles. I believe this caliber or rifle may be more picky than I'm used to. If you think the .0025 bump I achieved is enough I will weight sort my brass after I bump a bunch of the shoulders back and see what I come up with. Ill load a group at what I hought was going to shoot well the other day and see what it does.
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Ok guys. I have a ? On base to shoulder length. I mentioned before that my full length die did not bump the shoulder at all. Well I decided to try again. This time I dropped the die down a turn to make sure I was camming over tight on it. I measured a case with a headspace comparator, ran it through the die and measured again. Then did a second case the same way. On both cases I got a bump of .0025". Do you think that is enough?? I chambered both pieces of brass and they chambered easily. Neither had the snugness that the bolt did before the bump.

Brent.
I usually do not sort brass by weight and get close enough results for my needs on most rifles. I believe this caliber or rifle may be more picky than I'm used to. If you think the .0025 bump I achieved is enough I will weight sort my brass after I bump a bunch of the shoulders back and see what I come up with. Ill load a group at what I hought was going to shoot well the other day and see what it does.
I bump my brass about .001- .002" and it works well. You should be fine.
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Yeah I think that is fine too. Give it a go.
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