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Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

 
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:22 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

My guess is yes. That is why I think you could back off a grain or even .5 and try again. As long as the bolt lift is OK, I would try it personally. You will be close to 2900 FPS and close the accuracy node most find for the 6.5-284. I see it around 2700-2800 and again at 2900-3000. I was at 2970-3000 for a long time but pressures were pushing the limits. I am down to 2940 with 140 vlds and the rifle is performing very well. I run 52.5 retumbo with 160 Matrix at 2700 and they are awesome.

It's just my opinion mind you but I would probably try 51.5 to 52 and do the seating test. I test and load in the field so I don't waste a bunch of time and ammo. I would load 2 up with 52 grains at .000 off and shoot. If you get bugholes and you have enough bullet in the case neck to be safe, you are done. If not, load 2 rounds at .020.......etc If you get two bullets dang close to each other, load a 3rd, then a 4th. If all shoot .5 or less, tweak powder and/or depth a little.

BTW- I tend to test VLD bullets at 200 not 100. I will assume you are a good shooter and capable of producing repeatable excellent groups. VLDs just start settling down at 200 and they really shine from 500 on.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:34 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

I had the chance to chrono the load I've been using, which is 52.7 grains of H4831sc and a 140 vld hunting jammed .001" into the lands. I did throw out one shot/reading because the impact was not on target and the brass stuck tight enough that I had to stand up and really pull on the bolt to extract it. Velocity on that shot was also 220 fps lower than the others. Not sure what happened there. Brass looked fine. The average speed of the other rounds was 3149 with a spread of 18fps.
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:22 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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I had the chance to chrono the load I've been using, which is 52.7 grains of H4831sc and a 140 vld hunting jammed .001" into the lands. I did throw out one shot/reading because the impact was not on target and the brass stuck tight enough that I had to stand up and really pull on the bolt to extract it. Velocity on that shot was also 220 fps lower than the others. Not sure what happened there. Brass looked fine. The average speed of the other rounds was 3149 with a spread of 18fps.
My chronograph readings are about 200FPS lower than yours using the same load in my Savage LRH , and confirmed with drop data.
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:39 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

I've been in the middle of a major house remodel for a while that's why all the time has elapsed. I have not had time to test drop data yet.

If you remember a long while back when I tested drop data my vortex scope would not track right. Vortex said to use a torque wrench on the rings. Said I hand tightened them to tight. I did torque them to spec a while back. From the group that I chronoed I dialed 20 Moa and shot a group. Measured 20.88" the best I could measure. Should be 20.94" if right at 100 yards. Which I could have been off a few yards or just measured off that far. I'll call it good anyways. Will try to verify drop data soon.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:47 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Yeah that is crazy fast. Way faster than my rifle too. I saw over 3000 jamming the lands too but brass had about 2 reloads and primers fell out. Maybe you have superman level slick barrel. Good luck
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:48 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

It was my buddies chrono. It's new. I assume its functioning properly. The speeds on my 6.5 were at least 100 fps faster than I expected. His 300 wm was chrono ing 3180-3190 with 165 grn bullets. That seems appropriate to me. The other two guns I shot through it were within 30 fps of my field dopes that I've been using out to 500 or so yards in those two guns. So I feel like it was and accurate chrono on the group.

I'm also on the fourth loading of this brass and it still feels tight in the primers. Going to have to FL size this time though. to Bump shoulder back.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:34 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Well good luck. I have a Schneider 5R finished at 27" that will be finished up soon. This barrel might get me to 3000 fps.

With my stock savage and 54 grains of H4831SC, I could get 2900 fps at .015 off the lands with VLD Target. Targets had a much smaller contact patch or bearing surface so they flew a bit faster than the hunting. Hunting VLDs and 4831 were 2850. Switched to retumbo and at 57.5 grains shot 2975 but had flyers once in a while, backed down to 56.5.

close to 1000 rounds from the 6.5 were from 1000 to 1660 yards. DOPE proved to be 2940 fps on average at 56.5 grains. Would be very sweet to get mag like speeds such as yours but it aint happening. Might want to shoot that thing less and keep it as long as possible
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