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Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

 
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:18 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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I need to test that. I am using 210's right now and have 215's I could test. At the time I was playing with load work up the 210's were being used and I found what I needed for accuracy and stopped messing around. I have a chrono now, so I should get back to doing some testing and see if what differences are noted. It woul be nice to reduce the powder load by a grain and keep the speed. : )

Greyfox, how many reloads are you getting with the 6.6-284. My primer pockets are starting to loosen up. I am at the 6th reload now.
I have been running 10-20. The primer pockets can be tightened with a primer pocket tightening tool. They start to loosen 5-8 rounds. The tool is available from Midway and works well. About 30 bucks as I recall.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:33 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Both H4350 and IMR 4350 are on the fast side(burn rate) for the 6.5x284. Velocities will be low. The optimum powders for the cartridge are generally Re-22, H4831sc, and Retumbo, the latter producing the highest velocity. you should be able to get accuracy, velocities of 2900-3000 with Retumbo and H4831sc in a 24-26" barrel by varying, charge, primer, and seating depth with a Berger 140VLD. I have not used R22 due to experiences I have had with poor temperature stability in other calibers in the past.
Greyfox,

I just loaded retumbo because I couldn't get H4831 to shoot worth a dang.
I loaded 140 VLD at 3.152 with 56.7, 57, 57.2
Gonna try that. Sounds reasonable in a lrh 111?
Also put some Barnes 127gr at 57.5 just 3 shots on that one. Can't seem to get anything to group well.
Anyway just looking for opinions.

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Old 10-07-2013, 05:52 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Greyfox,

I just loaded retumbo because I couldn't get H4831 to shoot worth a dang.
I loaded 140 VLD at 3.152 with 56.7, 57, 57.2
Gonna try that. Sounds reasonable in a lrh 111?
Also put some Barnes 127gr at 57.5 just 3 shots on that one. Can't seem to get anything to group well.
Anyway just looking for opinions.

Thanks
Mario
That is reasonable. My LRH is loaded at 57.5gr Retumbo, Fed 215 Primers, 140 VLD's seated .070" off the lands. This gives me 2970 FPS with good accuracy and ES. Fine tuning for accuracy is powder weight, seating depth, and primer choice. From reading several posts and knowing other shooters of the LRH, these variables can vary with specific LRH rifles but you should be able to get a good load with this combo. Seating depth can make a big difference and other shooters have reported best results with the VLD's seated anywhere from at , or slightly in the lands to .1" out of the lands. I would start by varying in .025" increments. You can also try standard large rifle primers like the Fed 210's which can effect accuracy. My particular rifle gives slightly better accuracy with these but about 50FPS less velocity when using standard primers. Also, be sure to check the barrel channel to make sure it is free floated on your LRH. There is a pressure point on the forearm tip that I had to sand down to get best results on my rifle. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:11 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Great. Thanks!!!! Yes, I sanded that down already based in one of your previous posts.
I'll try this and report back

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Old 10-07-2013, 12:30 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Mario

I'm sure you've posted it before but it's hard for me to keep up with who has what. Your gun is a savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Norma, correct? I see you already floated the foreend. That's good. I have noticed that like greyfox said the jump that each gun likes with the bergers can differ a lot from each other. My suggestion would be to take a known powder charge that shoots well like 57 grains of retumbo and load a group 0.001" into the lands and then a group .010" of jump ,0.03"jump 0.05" jump and 0.07" jump.

Again this is just my suggestion. I really struggled trying to get mine to group jumping the bullets and it just wouldn't do it. I loaded some at 0.001" into the lands and the gun instantly went from 1 Moa to a one holer basically. Just something to try.
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

I will try that if these don't work. I think I'll take the best powder charge of these 6 a s then mess with seating. Following your recs.
Thanks dude

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Old 10-08-2013, 06:33 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

ShootnMathews I have a model 116 heavy fluted 6.5 284 and have been following this and another thread started by another member since January when i bought the gun. I Like you have been having a hard time getting rid of fliers it will shoot 2 .25 or less and one 1" plus away at 200 yards. the flier is random sometimes its the first shot sometimes its the second or third. I have tried everything on this thread except loading into the lands without success. My question is have you shot your load with ammo in the mag and tested runout and seating depth after a shot or two. I am worried seating into the lands or at the lands for hunting is not going to work for my gun as the bullet will not be seated deep enough to keep everything straight and consistent with recoil.
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