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Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

 
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:34 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

If I were you I'd try some Sweets copper cleaner or Wipe Out. Also, make sure u get the carbon ring clean as well. My Savage copper fouled terrible during the break-in period but is just an absolute tack driver now.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:51 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

So it is possibly copper fouled??
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:52 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

I was able to get some loades developed for my LRH 6.5x284. Using Lapua brass, Fed 210 primers, shooting 140 gr A-max @ 3.100" using 51.5 grains (H4831SC) produced this nice group I am really liking this cartridge combo
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:57 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

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Need some help here. The scale wasn't the only problem. I still can't get my 6.5-284 LRH to group. To restate previous facts its a savage LRH, Berger 140 VLD, Retumbo, lapua brass, 210M. I ve tried various seating depths from the lans out to .080 off them.

I thought a bad scale was the problem but I guess not. Today I still could not get consistency with once fired, neck sized brass, 57.5 Retumbo set .075 off the lans. 2 shots 1/2" apart one flyer 1-1/2 away. I am wondering if my barrel is copper fouled. This is why. I am about 100 shots in and I used hopped #9 to clean every 3 shots for the first 40 rounds then every 10 since. I was told this was not a strong enough copper remover for breakin. Could this be?? Need some help here.
In my experience Hoppes is not an effective copper cleaner, particularly with the rough bore that the Savage has. I would go with a copper solvent like Boretech CU+2. With the muzzle break on the Savage it's hard to see in the bore to check copper fouling. With the Boretech you can tell that the copper is gone when the patches come out white. You will likely have to re-do your break in if the copper was built up in the bore. The way you describe your groups, this may not be your problem. Are the flyers consistent, meaning that they occur on the the first shot, second, or third. Or are they random? An inch and a half off, after a half inch pair tends to be caused by bedding, mounts, loose brake. I would check the bedding as the Savage is sensitive to torque settings, 35-40#. Make sure the screws aren't too tight and that the barrel is making no contact with the stock cannel, particularly the end of the stock forearm. I had random flyers with my Savage 338 FCP. Turned out to be a bedding issue caused by too much torque on rear bedding screw. The design of the Savage bedding system, in my view, is very finicky.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:06 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

The second and fourth shots are the flyers usually.

I don't have a good inch pound torque wrench. Just a junk one which I figured was on the weak side if off so I set it about 42 pounds. Maybe I should back it off and retighten at 36 or so. Ideas? Thanks greyfox. I do appreciate it.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:09 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

I also already worked on the foreend to freefloat it. And the brake is frozen since like the 10 th shot. Which I never planned on using it off anyways.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:12 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Can you see any copper when looking at the end the muzzle with a good strong light?
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