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Old 02-07-2013, 09:08 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Oh... Sorry. Forgot that. The bore measures at 3.02" to the LANs which according to others is quite short. I tried several seating depths longer and even .01 shorter and .01 longer but none shot as well. Some quick figuring puts the bullet at .08 off the lands. Which seems super long to me but I can't argue with the results. I'm used to seating bullets at .01 or .02 off the LANs but I usually use noslers. Even the SMKs in my other guns seem to shoot the best at .01 off.

More shooting will tell. Suppose to rain here tomorrow but I'm going to try to zero it at 200 if weather permits.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:57 PM
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Oh... Sorry. Forgot that. The bore measures at 3.02" to the LANs which according to others is quite short. I tried several seating depths longer and even .01 shorter and .01 longer but none shot as well. Some quick figuring puts the bullet at .08 off the lands. Which seems super long to me but I can't argue with the results. I'm used to seating bullets at .01 or .02 off the LANs but I usually use noslers. Even the SMKs in my other guns seem to shoot the best at .01 off.

More shooting will tell. Suppose to rain here tomorrow but I'm going to try to zero it at 200 if weather permits.
Hope it doesn't rain ,but if your luck is like mine,bring your rain suit. I'll be hoping for a favorable range report. Got to go,cooking a Jambalaya and don't want it to burn. Keep me posted. ............SEMPER FI!
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:19 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Nice work shootnmathews. I am guessing 2750-2775 fps. There is an accuracy node in that area for sure. My rifle was good in that range too. Who know's though your rifle may handle the pressures a bit differently. Weather was horrible here yesterday so my buddy was not able to confirm drop on my rifle. That sucks. Weather is crappy again today and we are hunting tomorrow. That means I am only good for 650-700 right now. dagnabit.

sargesniper- I have a NF NXS 5.5-22 x 56 with NPR1.

Also, my main hunting weapon is a bow made by Mathews. See any connections here. : ) I have bow hunted since I was a little kid. My dad used to carry me around on his shoulders and I have been hooked ever since. LOL.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:08 AM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Brent. That's funny. I picked this name because its never taken. My email and surplus rifle forum names are the same. I still have my Mathews. Killed a nice 7 pt with it this year and a coyote last year. The last two years I've mostly hunted with a Martin savanna longbow. Killed a doe with it last year and a coyote this year.

I'm hoping to get in the high2700 but I doubt it. I'm kinda disappointed with the speed. But am happy with the accuracy. My sporterized Mosin nagant is shooting 2487 with a 174 grain SMK. Most people on this site laugh at those guns but mine shoots .5-.6 Moa at 350 yards. The other weekend I rang a 12" gong at 500 yards 5 for 5 in a 6-15 mph wind. Didn't measure the group but it looked like say 5" horizontally 2 vertically.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:05 PM
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Nice work shootnmathews. I am guessing 2750-2775 fps. There is an accuracy node in that area for sure. My rifle was good in that range too. Who know's though your rifle may handle the pressures a bit differently. Weather was horrible here yesterday so my buddy was not able to confirm drop on my rifle. That sucks. Weather is crappy again today and we are hunting tomorrow. That means I am only good for 650-700 right now. dagnabit.

sargesniper- I have a NF NXS 5.5-22 x 56 with NPR1.

Also, my main hunting weapon is a bow made by Mathews. See any connections here. : ) I have bow hunted since I was a little kid. My dad used to carry me around on his shoulders and I have been hooked ever since. LOL.
Yes i see the simularity there. Wouldn't sound as good with any other name. All of the NF"s i have are the R2 reticle. I had a hard time deciding on which one i should get and finally decided on the R2. R1 was was what i was debating myself over. I can still remember the hunting and fishing trips with my Dad also. Lost him at an early age. I was 16 He was 47. Lung cancer was the cause. Much suffering in the end. It still pains me to think about it. Have to run for now Grandchild waiting at school for me. .......SEMPER FI!
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:58 PM
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Still struggling to find the answer to why the speed has anything to do with the barrel life. I had way more pressure issue's with 4350 and 4831 than I do with retumbo.
Barrel life/throat erosion is a function of powder volume and cartridge dimension, commonly refered to as "overbore" a good example of overbore would be the fatter 6.5x284 compared to the 260 Remington. The fat hot steam of ten additional grains of powder coming out of the small 6.5 hole in the 6.5x284 generates lot more heat in the throat then the 260. Increased velocity is just a by product which is what you want in the first place. My 270WSM burned out a lot faster then my 6.5x284. My 300 WBY was gone in 500 rounds Fact is just about most of the magnums have comparable barrel life to the 6.5x284, some a lot worse. It's reputation as a barrel burner was earned by the target shooters that run very hot and are used to the smaller cartridges. They keep using it because it has super ballistics and accuracy. Shorter barrel life, comes with the ability to get the ballistics you need to kill game at 1000 yards with very low recoil. If you run a 6.5x284 at 2800-2850 FPS might as well shoot a 260. The issue is you trade off max range and ballistic performance. At 2975, the sweet spot for the 6.5x284, depending on the barrel, how hot you shoot it, cleaning process etc. You can expect 800-1200 rounds before you experience a drop off in accuracy. I'll take that any day for the ability to flatten a deer at 1000 yards.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:30 PM
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Re: Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions

Sarge

Very sorry to hear about your dad. My dad is still with me but I don't know for how long. Worry about him a lot. I worry to much about everyone. Gonna worry myself into the grave if I don't stop, but I can't.

Rained too much this morning and then work got in the way so my 200 yard site in will have to wait til later this weekend.

I've got to do a lot of hunting with my dad over the years but not near as much as I'd like to. Hope to get several more seasons. And hope I live to hunt many seasons with my boy who's 9 months now. Off to bed now. Early morning

Shootnmathews
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