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Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

 
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:11 AM
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

I don't have one but in normal metalworking machinery, the spring fits in the blind drilled hole and the ball rides on top of the spring. Usually, there will be a brass stop washer the ball rides through to index a moveable plate (like your turret)

A drop of light lubricating oil keeps the ball and spring moving smoothly and the brass stop waher aligns the spring/ball assembly.
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

I've always wondered, not doubted, how a turret press can make loads as precisely (less run out) as a regular single stage press which is much more ridged and has less play so to speak.
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

That depends entirely on the rigidity of the assembly and the manufacturing tolerances. You'll get more ram delflection (with the Redding) than deflection in the turret.

Eliminate the play in the turret (a rotating assembly on a stationary base) and that leaves the ram as the source of misalignment.
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

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This is an older thread, but coincidentally has to do with exactly the press I just bought..

Question for Broz, since I see he's obviously had his turrets off regularily* ...mine seems to be missing the detent ball and spring, that go underneath the turret, must have never been installed from factory I assume. I left a message with Redding to see whether I can get those small parts sent to me (so I can replace them and start using this thing) ...anyhow, I was curious whether you could possibly snap a photo of what they're supposed to look like (installed in-there) ? Would help give a guy an idea "in-which order" to sit 'em in-there once I have them* There is zero for parts or assembly pictures included and no manual aside from the parts card. A few pics would be greatly aprreciated if you wouldn't mind..?

Judging by the way the turret spins 'round & 'round, freely without effort.. I know something is missing. It's got to be the ball and spring that are supposed to stop it at each position*
Here ya go Rooster. It sounds like you are missing the spring and ball as shown here in these two pics.





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I've always wondered, not doubted, how a turret press can make loads as precisely (less run out) as a regular single stage press which is much more ridged and has less play so to speak.
When I state I am making truer and more consistent ammo than ever before I feel it is due to the combination. I used a RCBS press for decades and also RCBS dies. The difference here is in the competition dies with retractable sleeves to keep the case true to the die, the ability and method of use to set them up to zero clearance, a slight cam-over to assure zero variance in depth settings, and the option of leaving the dies set up in the turret so the next time you use them they will indeed be set up at the exact same depth and alignment because you did not remove them and they are still locked in and trued from the last time you set them up.

DISCLAIMER: If you are an idiot, gorilla, or have no common sense you could if you try hard enough set the cam over up to tight and probably damage things from brute force or standing on the ram handle or adding a cheater pipe extension. However these dies and the T-7 press are designed to be set up to a zero tolerance and a slight cam-over. This process brings the turret to rest on the true machined pad in the rear and all things come into a true alignment with the ram. I have been using these presses for 6 years and loaded 1000's of precision rounds and I have not bent, broken or wore anything out yet. No degree in rocket science needed just a small amount of common sense.
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

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DISCLAIMER: If you are an idiot, gorilla, or have no common sense you could if you try hard enough set the cam over up to tight and probably damage things from brute force or standing on the ram handle or adding a cheater pipe extension. However these dies and the T-7 press are designed to be set up to a zero tolerance and a slight cam-over. This process brings the turret to rest on the true machined pad in the rear and all things come into a true alignment with the ram. I have been using these presses for 6 years and loaded 1000's of precision rounds and I have not bent, broken or wore anything out yet. No degree in rocket science needed just a small amount of common sense.

Dang it..and this whole time I thought that it was the presses fault.

I use a T-7 Redding turret press as well and love it. I only use redding dies now as well. I used to use RCBS until I came upon the competition dies from redding. I would say that you would have to be a gorilla and an idiot to break that thing haha.
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

Thanks Broz.. that is exactly what I figured was missing. Picture's worth a thousand words*

Appreciate it!
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Re: Rockchucker to Redding T-7.Can you use rcbs dies in a redding t-7?

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Thanks Broz.. that is exactly what I figured was missing. Picture's worth a thousand words*

Appreciate it!
You are welcome Sir. Glad to help. Get her up and running I am sure you will love it.

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