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Old 07-19-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Reduced loads in 308 for youth

Yes i see your points. I do know i have ran retumbo in a 308 before with heavy bullets but never thought about the light bullet. I understand how that can happen just didnt occur to me. My apologies....

So i guess i would now suggest trail boss. I know it works great doing subs pushing 160-180 grain bullets. Would it work in this case using the 125's? maybe a load of around 14 to 16 grains?

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Old 07-19-2010, 09:23 PM
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Re: Reduced loads in 308 for youth

http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

That Link has info on working up reduced loads with Trail Boss and some data for 22-250 on up.

I have used it with 150,168,175 bullets in .308, with 10grains and a 175 it was chrono'd at an average of 1050 out of a 26" barrel,still had room to add more if you want to go above subsonic.

The 175's had very little recoil at all.
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Re: Reduced loads in 308 for youth

Old thread but I am heading out with my son and looked up the H4895 loads I used in the past. Here is some good data for reduced loads. I use a 110 VMax with the 60% load of H4895 and it gets me around 1600 fps with hardly any recoil.

https://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895%20...le%20Loads.pdf

Going to go load 5 of them and let him blow up some milk jugs. Also tried a few with the 155 Custom Competitions to see how they do.
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I bought some Nosler 125 Balistic tips and want to load some reduced recoil loads in a 308 Winchester. I have looked at 35-38 grains of H4895 (2500-2600fps). But was looking for something even lighter in the 2200 fps range. They will be fired in a bolt gun so ejection is not and issue. Reduced loads come with ignition issues and having to use case fillers.

Got any suggestions

Nat Lambeth


Had you thought about a muzzle Brake ?

They will reduce the recoil from 30% to 60% without experimental loadings that could be un-safe.

I realize they are not for everyone, but they can reduce recoil much more than light bullets and do not effect the performance (Hunting or target shooting).

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I bought some Nosler 125 Balistic tips and want to load some reduced recoil loads in a 308 Winchester. I have looked at 35-38 grains of H4895 (2500-2600fps). But was looking for something even lighter in the 2200 fps range. They will be fired in a bolt gun so ejection is not and issue. Reduced loads come with ignition issues and having to use case fillers.

Got any suggestions

Nat Lambeth
If you apply the Hodgdon 60% rule, you can go as low as 27.6 gr of H4895.

Just noticed the date. You've probably found the solution by now.
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Re: Reduced loads in 308 for youth

My soon to be 10 year-old son shot the 110 grain reduced loads today and came away unscathed. I fired one of the 155 grain H4895 loads but it seemed like there was a delayed detonation and the case seemed smoked. Sort of like a distinct click....bang. I pulled the rest of them seems the 60% load was too light with them.
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My soon to be 10 year-old son shot the 110 grain reduced loads today and came away unscathed. I fired one of the 155 grain H4895 loads but it seemed like there was a delayed detonation and the case seemed smoked. Sort of like a distinct click....bang. I pulled the rest of them seems the 60% load was too light with them.

You did the right thing. Squibb loads can be very dangerous.

Less powder is not the answer to slower loads that recoil less, The problem is extra space in the case.

Powder has its own fuel and oxygen. The oxygen in the space that is not filled by powder increases
the burn rate and also the powder that does not completely cover the primer flame, changes the flame front and can cause the primer to start more powder than normal because the surface may run the length of the case. this drastically changes the burn rate. I limit my loads to no less than 90% case density and prefer 95 to 100% even when fire forming.

This is the reason that the loading manuals warn not to load less than the minimum load listed.

Glad everything worked out and nothing bad happened.

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