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Old 01-23-2014, 07:46 PM
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redding body die issues?

hey guys, I switched over to a diff batch of once fired Winchester brass for my 300wm. It wont chamber, so I tried to put it in the redding body die and my brass feels like its going to get STUCK, and don't want to force it and it needs a bunch of pressure to get out of die. I have the 3pc redding comp dies. I put case lube on the case before going into body die. it did nothing to shoulder bump. almost like case is to big for die feels like. The case has about an inch before it would be fully in die. also using the redding stepped shell holders, I use .010 for my other good brass. should I use a different size shell older? any help would be great!
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:26 PM
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Re: redding body die issues?

the shellholder has nothing to do with being an inch away from getting your brass completely in the body die . I'd say the new once fired brass came from a large chamber . I think you need to use a good sizing lube , I'm back to using lube on a pad . then work the brass in and out , a little at a time , until you can get it completely in the die . I would use the standard shell holder so you can size as much as possible this first time .
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:17 PM
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the shellholder has nothing to do with being an inch away from getting your brass completely in the body die . I'd say the new once fired brass came from a large chamber . I think you need to use a good sizing lube , I'm back to using lube on a pad . then work the brass in and out , a little at a time , until you can get it completely in the die . I would use the standard shell holder so you can size as much as possible this first time .


I had the same problem with my 300 win and redding die end up running the brass twice once with die backed out a turn more than normal then at normal spot. I used rcbs lube on the pad and wall la. Just make sure the entire case has lube on it. Hope this works for you.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:31 PM
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I had the same problem with my 300 win and redding die end up running the brass twice once with die backed out a turn more than normal then at normal spot. I used rcbs lube on the pad and wall la. Just make sure the entire case has lube on it. Hope this works for you.
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Remove the expander ball also to get the brass sized and then use the expander ball or the bushing depending on what type of dies you are using.

I have also switched back to the "Old" RCBS sizing lube (Not the water soluble Kind) because the very big cases were taking a lot of force. I hope I can find some more of it, as I am just about out.


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Old 01-23-2014, 11:57 PM
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Re: redding body die issues?

Thanks for all the help guys, that was indeed the issue. I put lube before, but turns out I just didn't spit on it enough. More lube and it went in. Now, a little confusion on my part and think I may have screwed myself. My cases were not chambering, then put in body die and now the chamber easy. But seems like I need a bit more resistance in the chamber.(don't have had space bushing yet) can I make it tighter or in there or did I bump it back to much?
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:43 AM
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Re: redding body die issues?

My preferred way of measuring for shoulder bump is with the RCBS precision mic tool. You put a fired case into the tool and it takes a measurement off a datum point on the shoulder. Then bump the shoulder slightly and measure it...you want to be .001-.002 shorter. This can be tricky to achieve since the body die has no micrometer adjustment and one turn of the die is about 70 thousandths. Bumping the shoulder more than .002 won't be catastrophic by any means, you'll just be working the brass more than you need to. You'll also be begging for "the dreaded donut" to make an appearance.

The precision mic tool is about $40-50 if I remember but it's one of those things that's very nice to have. It also allows you to measure the distance to your lands accurately.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:59 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys, that was indeed the issue. I put lube before, but turns out I just didn't spit on it enough. More lube and it went in. Now, a little confusion on my part and think I may have screwed myself. My cases were not chambering, then put in body die and now the chamber easy. But seems like I need a bit more resistance in the chamber.(don't have had space bushing yet) can I make it tighter or in there or did I bump it back to much?


now that you have the brass fitting your gun , fire it , now it will be formed to your chamber . now you can use your redding competition shell holder set and get the proper shoulder bump . I like to use a RCBS precision mic to measure my brass , there are other tools that will do this too.

was you using originally one shot spray lube ?

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