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RE-25 in 25-06 AI

 
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Old 03-22-2007, 07:14 PM
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RE-25 in 25-06 AI

Been playing around with the 115 grainers in the 25-06AI lately and I really like how hard they hit compared to the misc. 100 grainers I've tried. I have some 125 grain Wildcats on order and I'm really looking forward to giving those a try. Currently I'm shooting around 57-58 grains of RE-22 behind the 115 Noslers or Bergers for around 3250 FPS. I'm thinking about 60-62 grains of RE-25 should give a little more velocity. Groups are currently averaging right around 1"-1.5" at 200 yds.
Anyone out there shoot RE-25 in an Ackley case? How does it compare in performance to RE-22 in your experience with the heavy-for-caliber bullets?
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

Yes, I am! RL25 kicks butt with the heavier bullets in this
round. I get 3,250fps with the 125 Wildcat with 59.5 gr. of RL25. It is a Sendero with the Kirby treatment. Please work up slowly!
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:49 AM
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

nomo,
Have you figured a BC for this bullet out of your rifle? I'm guessing it's probably about the same as the 115 Berger (around .525)... but I'm looking forward to the increased energy. I can't believe how much harder the 115s hit than the 100s, I'm expecting the same increase going to a 125. Also, I'm guessing you have a 26" pipe on the Sendero? I'm shooting a 26" Douglas SS Match #5 bbl on my Rem. 700. If I can get 3200+ I'll be smiling from ear-to-ear baby... although not too many critters will feel the same!!
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:00 PM
 
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Cartridge : .25-06 Ack Imp.
Bullet : .257, 115, Berger VLD
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch or 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-25

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 78 49.60 2562 1676 28010 10523 94.9 1.685
-18.0 80 50.84 2627 1762 29887 10832 96.1 1.644
-16.0 82 52.08 2691 1849 31893 11120 97.2 1.603
-14.0 84 53.32 2756 1939 34036 11384 98.0 1.563
-12.0 86 54.56 2820 2030 36327 11623 98.8 1.524
-10.0 88 55.80 2883 2123 38776 11834 99.3 1.480
-08.0 89 57.04 2947 2217 41396 12017 99.7 1.436
-06.0 91 58.28 3009 2312 44200 12170 99.9 1.393
-04.0 93 59.52 3071 2408 47204 12291 100.0 1.351
-02.0 95 60.76 3132 2505 50423 12400 100.0 1.311
+00.0 97 62.00 3192 2602 53870 12506 100.0 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 99 63.24 3251 2699 57577 12608 100.0 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 101 64.48 3310 2798 61547 12707 100.0 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 103 65.72 3368 2897 65769 12802 100.0 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 105 66.96 3426 2997 70272 12894 100.0 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 107 68.20 3483 3097 75085 12982 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 62.00 3322 2818 66118 12063 100.0 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 62.00 2994 2289 42925 12821 98.2 1.406
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:01 PM
 
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Cartridge : .25-06 Ack Imp.
Bullet : .257, 115, Nosler BalTip 25115
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch or 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-25

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 78 49.60 2568 1684 28197 10526 95.0 1.680
-18.0 80 50.84 2633 1770 30094 10833 96.2 1.639
-16.0 82 52.08 2697 1858 32121 11119 97.2 1.598
-14.0 84 53.32 2762 1948 34279 11381 98.1 1.558
-12.0 86 54.56 2826 2040 36603 11617 98.8 1.519
-10.0 88 55.80 2890 2133 39080 11826 99.4 1.474
-08.0 90 57.04 2954 2228 41731 12005 99.7 1.430
-06.0 92 58.28 3016 2323 44569 12155 100.0 1.387
-04.0 94 59.52 3078 2420 47610 12274 100.0 1.345
-02.0 96 60.76 3139 2517 50870 12382 100.0 1.305
+00.0 98 62.00 3200 2614 54366 12486 100.0 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 100 63.24 3259 2712 58122 12588 100.0 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 102 64.48 3318 2811 62149 12686 100.0 1.194 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 104 65.72 3376 2911 66433 12780 100.0 1.159 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 106 66.96 3434 3011 71007 12870 100.0 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 108 68.20 3491 3112 75897 12957 100.0 1.094 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 98 62.00 3329 2830 66739 12044 100.0 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 98 62.00 3002 2301 43309 12815 98.3 1.399
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:15 AM
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

Well so far I have only used the mentioned powders in the standard 25-06. However RL-22 and the 115gr PT's were my go to load for over 15 years. My load was 56.5grs with the OAL of 3.250 going 3150fps for 1/2" groups @ 200yds. This load shot scary accurate and always did the job.

I have shot both eh 125 and 130 Wildcat's through the rifle and used both the 22 and 25 for the limited sesessions. If you work up slow you should be able to tweak the load into around 1/2" at 200 yds easily. THe impacts of these bullets is awesome, and I doubt you will look back once you get your load developed. I got the 130's to just over 3100fps with my standard 24" factory tube so you should be able to get where you want to be with some careful measureing.

I don't have any data up here with me, but here is the very first groups I shot with the 130's with them seated without changing my die from the 115's. I know there was some differences as the profiles are different, but I was just looking for the velocities at the time.
This was 100yds with the 130's and RL-25,


This was the exact same load at 300yds,


I can tell you that the 130's do a number on a hog, and should work equally well or better on deer or elk. I might be building me a new 25 in an AI version this year, but need to get some other issues covered first. Good luck with yours and have fun.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: RE-25 in 25-06 AI

Hey guys, I shoot a 25-06 ackley, It has a 1-10" will I be able to use the 125-130 bullets, do they even make a faster twist?
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