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problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

 
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:20 AM
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problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

I recently purchased some wlr primers because they are the only primers I have been able to find typically I use federal or CCI primers. I recently loaded 150 rnds using once fired brass didn't ream out pocket just brushed out carbon. Now to the point the primers fell in to pocket with almost no resistance and seating much deeper than I would like. Had a few primers after fully loaded fall right out of pockets these cartridges I instead of trying to reuse primers that fell out I popped in some federal 210 that I still had these primers went in with nice consistent tension and seating nice and flush. anyone have problems like this using Winchester primers other than me?
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:46 AM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

Yes, I have also had this problem with WLR's. I have also had this issue with various lots of brass, and found that all my primers brands were loose. I have a primer pocket tightener that I picked up from Midway that easily solves the problem, particularly during times like this when components are in short supply.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:03 AM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

I've never seen a wlr drop out of a pocket and I've shot thousands of wlr and wlrm primers. I have a K or so loaded at present. I shoot fed primers for the most part, but occasionally stuff something else in a load when working it up to burn up components. Your loads are hot enough( or your brass tired enough) that some primers are still grabbing(I'd bet rem- they look like a blind man stamped 'em out) while the wins are telling you to back off as you've already blown your pockets. I hardly ever loose a pocket; usually that's reserved for running test loads on a new rifle.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:46 AM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

once in the early 90's I had a issue with wsp(M) primers some where as you said going in too easy and others too tight, some didnot even come out of the plastic tray.
I measured them with my caliper and found that there was a lot of inconsistanceys in the diamiters. I then contacted winchester about it with the lot number of the box and my measurements. They where fast to get back to me with an appoligy and a check to cover the cost of the box of 1000 that I bought.
They thanked me for letting them know that there was a problem, wich was verry nice of them they didnot want them back just asked me to destroy the rest of the box.
It was that letter that since then has kept me asking for the winchester primers first
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:26 PM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

Measured and compaired my wlr next to my fed 210 and found the wlr primers to be shorter and has smaller diameter not by much only a few thousandths but must be enough though
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:37 PM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

The table below explain the thickness of primer cups:
http://www.radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:50 PM
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Re: problem with wlr primers staying in pocket

Had the same issue loading for my 300WSM. The Winchester primers almost fell into the primer pocket. They were also shorter and allowed for the primer to be set in about .030" further into the pocket.
For those that are thinking that my brass was stretched from a hot load or excessive use.... think again! This was on NEW Winchester brass! You would think that by using Winchester brass and their primers I wouldn't have an issue.
Same brass using CCI primers... no problems.
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