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Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

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Unread 03-11-2014, 11:53 PM
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Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

(Originally posted in components forum)

Howdy All,

Like the rest of you I'm dismayed, frustrated, disappointed, angry at times and suspicious most of the time at the lack of or the incredibly slow return of components to the consumer shelves.

So now I have to make a decision... whether to buy now components that I consider to be non-optimal or to just wait... and wait.

I have been holding out for FED GM215M primers for over a year (as well as H1000 but that's another thread). For whatever reason, they are not showing up. However WinLR and WinLRM are on the shelves and online (Third Gen SS). IMO Win primers history of reliability issues make them less than optimal for LR precision.

But if it comes down to 'it's all there is, use it and suck it up' then my question is, would those of you who use FED GM215M or FED GM215s rather just wait out the drought or use 'what's available'?

Right now, I'm undecided.

Thanks guys,


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Unread 03-12-2014, 12:43 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?


Right now im not without and ill tell ya why. You frequent the places where what you need shows up at, ie... Online vendors and local stores and such, and when ya see somethin you "may" need you buy it regaurdless of weather or not you need it right now.

The political spectrum in the country holds too much uncertianty right now and if the dems get the house back there will be no stopin whatever laws or restrictions they wish to pass.... You have not quite 2 years left provided no EO's come down that infringe on our rights even more.

My advice, if you find somethin you may need buy it.

Call it panic buying or what you will, but when the dust settles, youll have components. Or you hold out and possibly miss the boat.

All boils down to the uncertian times we're livin in buddy. Whod of ever thought that 22 ammo was gold, sheez.

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Unread 03-12-2014, 02:54 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

Yup, gotta get what ya can !

I have never used WLRM primers, but ended up buying 2 bricks yesterday
do not want to burn up my Diamond Plated Fed 215 primers for fireforming brass
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Unread 03-12-2014, 04:22 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

If you can find components that you use, buy them if you need them....In my area some reloading components are becoming a little easier to get.....I don't shoot near as much as I use to but a couple of years back I "laid up" several thousand primers "just in case" of hard times....
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Unread 03-12-2014, 04:53 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

I have some loads with Winchester primers and have never had reliability issues with them and have made accurae loads with them. If you work up a load with them, I think you'll do fine.

Primers are starting to show up on shelves including a lot of Federal Match primers at least at our local Cabela's. I didn't pay much attention, but I think there were even 215M primers last time I was there. Of course, the prices were quite a but more than they were pre Sandy Hook.

I think prices will come down but I don't know when. I also can't predict fickle political winds which could prolong the shortage or cause another shortage. So, I would say if you need primers, buy primers.
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Unread 03-12-2014, 06:31 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

its tme for me to start loading for crop damage deer shooting and time for waiting is over. I found a couple bricks of fed large rifle mags that arent match that are going to have to be used this year. What makes me more mad then anything is I use them in about a dozen rifles i rotate through during season and im going to have to waste alot of time just veriying that they are still accurate enough and im sure in some cases will have to do some load development shooting to get them exceptable again.
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Unread 03-12-2014, 11:57 AM
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Re: Primers: Buy Now or Wait?

The only difference between a 'match' primer an d a regular primer is the 'match primer was produced with a bit more care by a more experienced machine operator, so I'm told.

Considering every manufacturer is supposedly running 'balls to the wall' I don't believe there is a lack of experienced operators out there..... just say'in.

I think (personally) the difference is in price and box and printing color and thats it....

I have a shitte pile of Federals is all flavors and CCI in 400 SR's for the 223's I load but I want to try something different so I got some Winchester LR's. Shot rounds with everything equal across the chrono and the Federals and the Winchesters were the same.

The only difference I've found is in ML primers (209) where the cup height varies between manufacturers.
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