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Old 04-20-2012, 12:33 PM
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Re: Primers

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What does this have to do with your primer question? I don't understand what you are trying to combine or have a question about.

I was giving NIMROD some info on my powder choices because he said sometimes primer choice depends on the powder you use. THX

LOL....ok thanks and sorry I couldnt help more. Too many "RULES", "SHOULDS", and "WHAT IF'S" for me.

I will just continue to try several different brands, sizes, and go with what works best for that particular load and rifle.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:47 PM
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Re: Primers

While everyone has a valid point no one brought up weather conditions such as in hunting! I travell to Texas panhandle during November to hunt Whitetails and I have found that in my 280 AI with 63.5 grains of Retumbo doesn't quite get the proper igniton with the standard CCI200 in the 14 degree morning cold weather so I load with the CCI250 and have no problems. I know of another rule so to say that anything with 60 grains of powder or more should be using a magnum primer to get the best results but hey isn't that what hand loading is for to experiment and get your best results with the platform you are using at hand?
Just my .02 worth!

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Old 04-21-2012, 05:23 AM
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Re: Primers

I have seen hang fires with ball in big cases using std primers. i fire lapped 4 guns last summer. A 2506 a 257 wby and two 7mags. I used starting loads with 414 in all of them because i had a bunch of 414 and used std primers because i had a pile of ww old silver primers. Just about every shot with all three guns were hangfires. Now granted if i would have stepped up the pressure it might have gone away but if there hang firing with starting loads im about sure there not ideal with even full power loads. As to what to use for your load your going to have to about try both. Just varying the powder charge a grain either way can change what primer works best with about any powder. Ive got loads for the 300 wby that work best with standard primers and loads with the 6mm rem that do better with mag primers so theres no real way of making that determination short of going to the range and finding out.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:40 PM
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Re: Primers

300 WSM
I use CCI 200 with H4350, Win brass.
H4831 fills the case before max velocity is reached in my rifle.

165 Sierra SPBT 65-66 gr 2.805 OAL - 3060-3100 FPS - (66 gr max).
180 Sierra, Hornady 64 gr 2.800 OAL - 2960 FPS
180 Partition, 61.5 gr 2.810 OAL - 2890 FPS

The 165 Sierra and Hornady SST group the best for me.
I can't get the Partitions to group well so will try Barnes TTSX next.
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:16 AM
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Re: Primers

I have used WLRM primers in just about everything I have (.300 RUM, 7.65x53, 7x57, 8x57, 9x57, .375 H&H, .375 Weatherby, 9.3x62mm and .500 A-Square), they work well, but they do NOT work well with the .223 WSSM. I bought a case of Fed Match for those.

If you shoot in really cold temps and need the extra heat, use the mag primer, otherwise you can save some bucks and use a regular match primer.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:20 AM
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Re: Primers

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While everyone has a valid point no one brought up weather conditions such as in hunting! I travell to Texas panhandle during November to hunt Whitetails and I have found that in my 280 AI with 63.5 grains of Retumbo doesn't quite get the proper igniton with the standard CCI200 in the 14 degree morning cold weather so I load with the CCI250 and have no problems. I know of another rule so to say that anything with 60 grains of powder or more should be using a magnum primer to get the best results but hey isn't that what hand loading is for to experiment and get your best results with the platform you are using at hand?
Just my .02 worth!

I think the difference here is the Retumbo vrs 4350. I have hunted with my 300 WSM and 200 CCI's at temps well below freezing (-10) with no problems. This past winter I was working up some new 300 WSM loads and tested velocity at temps from freezing to just below. Velocity was the same as previous tests from last fall.

Note: (I would'nt use anything but mag primers with Retumbo in my 7 mm RM - 4831 in the 338 WM).
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:51 PM
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Re: Primers

Thanks guys lots of help, all of my hunting is done in North Florida where temps range from 20's some mornings to upper 80's in the afternoon towards the end of season. Im really liking the ballistics of the RL-17 from what I've seen, I will probably just try some Fed 215s first then if I cant get the accy I want ill try some CCI 200's. Ive noticed H4831 has a tendancy to fill a case in most non belted magnums before max capacity is reached.
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