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Old 05-01-2006, 04:42 PM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

Thanks for all of the input. I am new to this site, but I can tell you guys are my kind of people (2nd amendment lovers). 1.This gun will be used primarily for long range hunting, elk, deer and coyote, possibly some target shooting. 2.I already have a seperate $700 dollars set aside for the scope. I am sure I will catch hell for this, but will probably buy a Shepherd 6-18. I have one on my Sako 7mm and it is easy to use and very clear.
3.As for buying a weatherby, I have only had a small amount of exposure to them but almost all of it has been negative when it comes to accuracy. I will definately research the 338-378 some more. 5.Price isn't a real deterant as far as ammo, because I will reload. 6.The reason I lean toward the Sendero is availibility of parts for Model 700.
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:13 PM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

Don't count out the Savage 116 SAK I have one that shoots sub sub min and a friend has one that will shoot that good too.As far as Weatherbys I have a friend who had an accumark that wouldn't shoot 2" at 100 yds. and Weatherby wouldn't make up the gun, they may stand behind their products but they stood too far back to suit me!I do know of 2 Wbys that will shoot sub min, I'm not bashing all of them just the one 'ol Coker had... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

Well, I do have Rugers and Savage's - if you've ever tried Savage's Accutrigger you'd be impressed. I'll bet we'll never see a Timney or Shillen replacement trigger for an Accutrigger. I have a nice little M77 - MKII Compact Stainless, laminated stock in 7-08 for sale, it has been replaced by a Savage. I don't consider myself a poor man, but I just like good value for my hard earned money.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:18 AM
 
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I currently own three ultimate poor mans long range hammers built by Kirby. He not only makes the hottest uber mags, he will built you a semi-custom gun. I had new 300, 338 & 375 RUMS. Because the 300 was a SENDARO with 26" fluted SS tube and was shooting sub MOA AND I found a bargain on a used Savage 300 RUM, I sent him the Savage and the Rem 338, 375. For not much more than your budget they all have 30 Lilja #8 contour. pipe, trigger job, custom stock, Holland QD brake, scope rail hole bored to #8-40 (per - they all shot sub 1/2 MOA with minimal load dev. The 375 kicks less than my .243 winny.

The 300 RUM/Savage/Kirby/Lilja has a fast twist 1:11 tube that shoots 155gr scenars. I was thinking of having Kirby build me a 300 rum with a 1:8 twist to shoot the new 240gr MK, but why? The 300gr MK out the 338 RUM is far superior.

The 375 RUM is actually the most fun to tote around and shoot, being the lightest (biggest diameter).

The 338 does everything the 300 does, only better. I'll probably have Kirby make my next hammer a 338 RUM Improved with 300 RUM length brass (not sure if that's necessary as you can't fill 338 RUM brass now when shooting 300gr pills, but perhaps you can with the slowest powders and a 36" tube)

Pick up a used 338 RUM (they are dirt cheap as they kick too hard for mortals). Have Kirby or another good smith put a Lilja or other quality pipe on it and a good brake (I recommend Holland QD), trigger job - and you've got the ultimate long range hammer. You should be able to do that for close to your budget. You won't be able to get the heavy/long #8 contour or new stock, but you can still end up with a sub 1/2 MOA Long Range Hammer.

Or go out and buy a tubed amp and a Harley [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:09 AM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

Definately the best combo for the $ is the savage that has the most features you want, paired with a good scope. If you decide you want the ballistics of a round that savage dosen't chamber, no problem, because aftermarket barrels are easily avalable, and cheap from many, many companies... and you can do the conversions at home.
I threaded the 300Wm barrel off my action last month and screwed on a new tube with a 7mm hole in it. Its shooting fast and accurate, and when I get all the testing and development done, you guys arent going to believe what this cheap combo will do.
Thats saying a lot... considering I DO consider myself a poor man.

Heres a taste: 162 Amax at 3004 fps
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:19 PM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

I went with the Sendero and don't regret it. I'm still in load development but it appears I'll easily be sub-MOA to approaching 1/2 MOA with just a self trigger job.
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Old 05-02-2006, 04:28 PM
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Re: Poor man\'s long range gun

Does anyone know about the specs. on the Remington 700P in 300 ultra mag. their web page has very little info. and I called the remington customer service line and the rep said he recomends the 700P over the sendero, but had no hard facts or information why. I do like the matte finish on the police model better than the stainless finish of the sendero. Also couldn't find any Savages chambered for the Ultra mag cartridges for those, who were suggesting the Savage rifles.
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