Originally Posted by Bart B
Are all these long range hunters putting their first shot at a target at least 600 yards and have the bullet strike within 1/2 MOA of the desired impact point without any external artificial support?
No bipods, pads, or any thing holding or supporting the rifle except human extremedies that may be stabilized with a sling?
Note that in high power competition, most strings of fire at targets that far away are shot with metallic sights; no scopes allowed.
Your worried about everyone else accuracy and you should worry about your own.
You were on the 1988 Palma team shooting the palma rifle @ 800yd,900yda and 1000yd at the match held every 4yrs you were just one place out of being last place on your team for that match. the US team lost that match and that was a sling match no scope and sure got your name in the record books. You call record group .0077" luck what your excuse can't blame the ammo David Tubbs and his father placed pretty high.
Bart case you forget I made some comment about the 1968 Palma team and their win and the high score and here is your comment about it.
"the size of the target (rings) has everything to do with the scores fired for a given accuracy level of the equipment.
Old USA long range high power target rings used until the early 1970's:
V=20", 5=36" aiming bullseye, 4=54" 3=72" square target paper (original had a 2-point 20" x 72" panel on both sides; removed in the 1920's)
Great Britian long range fullbore target rings
V=14.4" (12" in Canada), 5=24", 4=48" aiming bullseye, 3=72", 2=96", 1=118" wide by 70" high target paper
USA long range high power target rings after early 1970's and adopted by the Int'l Palma Committee in 1991(?) as the standard for its matches.
X=20", 10=20", 9=30" 8=44" aiming bullseye, 7=60", 6= 72" square target paper
It's easy to see how a given shot distribution's dimensions will produce differnt scores depending on the target used. No wonder the USA set a record back then; the target's high scoring ring was 50% bigger than the British fullbore one used in virtually all other countries in Palma matches; 36" vs. 24" and the next highest ring was 54" vs. 48". "
You want to talk to me about my post I'll be glad to come up to loveland and meet you we'll have to do after I get back from hunting. Offer is still good but have to do it next year at the 1000yd BR match at Byers might want to start working on your loads.