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Overall, which is the best performer??

 
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:32 PM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Really of those listed, I have alot more expeirence with the SMK's and A-Max's. I have been shooting the 178gr amax in 300WM for the last 3 or 4 years, and am extremly pleased with how they kill. Up close hit shoulder bones and they wont exit, but will destroy everything inside. If it hits no bone or ribs, lots of damage and good size exits (3-4in). On long shots, 400+, they stay togther a little bit better and leave good exits. I have not had a deer take a step when hit with an Amax. Wich might seem kind of funny since the MK wounds tend to be alot more gruesome, but the Amax dumps all of its "energy" inside the animal. So basicly for deer size game I "think" I like the amax;s better.
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Another option Richard gives you that some of the others don't is bonding. You have to lose the boattail which costs you some BC, but for those concerned about bullet integrity and penetration at close/medium ranges it could be a good compromise.
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Old 11-24-2005, 07:05 PM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Ok, to you and Bill B.:

Are you guys saying that the jacket that is used in Wildcat bullets is the J-4 and it is "inferior" (for a lack of better term), than that of the Sierra MK bullets?

I have access to tons of SMK bullets but I thought I'd like to try some Amax bullets when I try the Wildcats in a couple of months.

Speaking of these high BC bullets, what do you all think of the Swift Scirocco? A riflesmith I use has one of those Juenke concentricity gauges and stated to me that he was quite shocked at how concentric these factory bullets were. He tried some of the new 224 caliber 75 grainers and got a 0.2 something group from his 22-6mm. He said the accuracy and consistency was surprising since it is a "factory" bullet. I read on John Burns website that he liked those bullets quite well also.

How about those? I've only tried 2, the 130 grain in one of my 270 WCFs and the 180 in my 300 RUM. It took awhile but once I got a load for each, they were very good groups--less than 1/2" with several strings of 3.

I took a bear with the 180 Scirocco in Alberta at 8 yards with my 30.06 and it passed through and dumped the bear on the spot. I used Re22. I was loading for power/speed instead of accuracy as all of the shots were going to be close. That is the only kill experience I have with the Scirocco.
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Old 11-24-2005, 07:56 PM
 
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Don't have a clue as to what jackets are used in Wildcat bullets!

As for the Sciroccos....I've found that they are the most accurate bullet I've ever fired in my old '06 match rifle! On a decent day when the wind isn't blowing 35+....they'll print into 8-10" all day aka ten shot groups!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Oh...forgot to add....those groups are fired from 1000 yds! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Not that they are inferior, but the J4s are just paper thin.
They will work fine on deer sized game, but I wouldn't trust them on an elk or moose. I think RMulhern said something to this effect.
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:11 AM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

Just to add to the mix.......I shot a whitetail doe last Sat at 689 yards with a .338 250g SMK. I had a buddy downrange about 200 yards with a video camera zoomed up close on the deer. The video of the exit is awsome! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I don't know about the smaller cals but in .338 cal the SMKs shure dump whitetails in thier tracks!

I have been a big fan of the sicroccos too, but with the two rifles I have been playing with this year (HS .338rum and .338 Kahn) I had trouble getting them to shoot well. Switched to Barnes TSX and SMKs and the groups tightened right up. I'm not bashing the sciroccos, I'm certain I just need to do some more load developing with them. I have shot a lot of game (elk, deer, hogs) with the 210 .338 sciroccos and the performance has been excellent.

I've got some wildcat bullets on order, but have never fired any.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:44 AM
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Re: Overall, which is the best performer??

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Another option Richard gives you that some of the others don't is bonding. You have to lose the boattail which costs you some BC, but for those concerned about bullet integrity and penetration at close/medium ranges it could be a good compromise.

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He can also bond the J-4 jacketed HPs as long as they are flat based?

Or were you refering to his bonded hunting bullets with the .030 and .040 jackets?
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