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Need a Load for .338 RUM for Big Bears

 
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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Ian has the bullets right

You need a bullet that will hold together. So I think Ian's choices are better than the Nosler partition. The Partition might kill better on a broadside shot into the vitals. For that matter, the 300 SMK would likely kill great on quartering away shot where you could stick it into the vitals from behind the shoulder. But it's not the right bullet for your hunt!!

If he's pointed in my direction, I'd want something designed to retain nearly all it's weight. That would give the bullet a better chance of penetrating large bone and muscle before it reaches the vitals. And the best shot will break a large bone AND reach the vitals. So you need a bullet capable of doing just that.

I too would take a 416 RM if I had one. But I think a 338 RUM is plenty of gun if the first shot is right. Beyond everything else the first shot has to be into the vitals and, if possible, take out a front shoulder. That would be all I'd be thinking about when it came time to take the shot. If I wasn't 100% sure of that first shot, I won't shoot until I was sure. I'd never shoot the first shot unless my hold was dead steady and I was sure where the vital area was. I'd also never open hostilities on a moving animal...unless he was very close and headed straight at me. Then nothing, not even that 416, would seem big enough!! But the 338 and the right bullet will do the job if you do yours, even on a close in charge.

If I just build a 338 RUM, I won't take anything else. Have a good hunt!!
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:19 PM
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I shoot for the nervous system, which is easiest to take out with a shot to the scapula, no lung or heart shots ever. Puts them on the ground and gives me control of the situation for a finisher. There is very little control when the lung shot bear has disappeared in the alders. That is why I like the A-Frames, they bust the heck out of the scapula and spine bones, and take out the nervous system. I have killed enough hundred bears to know this works, plus had more than my share of all-out charges. Believe me, you will not be worrying about the bullet when a big bear is coming at you.

The .338 you are having built will be a great bear rifle. Best luck with finding a good load, there are several good bullets out there. I would stay with a 225 to 250 to take advantage of all that velocity potential.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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Got to agree with Ian on the 416, but Roy's idea with the 375 would be an excellent choice. Way back in my youth I'd seen a friend kill a smallish black bear sow with a rock, but you're going to need lot's more than 5lbs of granite for a Brown when he gets testy. Check out the bear hunting video on MYoutdoorTV.com, sorry don't know how to link directly to it. The first guy shoots a very nice boar and at the shot a sow charges to within what looks like 10feet or less.

Did know a guy from Delta Junction, AK, said his family's "little" gun was a 30-06.
He pretty much carried a 338 winmag every where he went, used partitions unless he was hunting bears than switched to Trophy Bonded for that.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:39 PM
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Got to agree with Ian on the 416, but Roy's idea with the 375 would be an excellent choice. Way back in my youth I'd seen a friend kill a smallish black bear sow with a rock, but you're going to need lot's more than 5lbs of granite for a Brown when he gets testy. Check out the bear hunting video on MYoutdoorTV.com, sorry don't know how to link directly to it. The first guy shoots a very nice boar and at the shot a sow charges to within what looks like 10feet or less.

Did know a guy from Delta Junction, AK, said his family's "little" gun was a 30-06.
He pretty much carried a 338 winmag every where he went, used partitions unless he was hunting bears than switched to Trophy Bonded for that.
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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Griz

Mountain grizs are'nt really that big. I'd feel real comfortable with a 225 gr Accubond in the 338 RUM.
Actually thats what I carried on my griz hunt last fall. Must of been adequate, scared em off. Never saw one, the cowards!!
Coastal BB, thats another story. Carried my 375 H&H with the 270 TSX.
Same luck with them.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:55 PM
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Roy, glad you didn't take offense to my comments, sometimes it is hard to make tone of remarks clear with written rather than spoken words.

Ian, after I posted I also thought of the A frame as a good tough bullet. If I had my druthers, I would probably pick the Partition or A frame over simply a bonded bullet. I hit my bull elk this past fall with the 225 gr AB started at 3050 fps MV at 320 yds and shattered the offside shoulder bone but it did not exit. No part of the bullet other than a few tiny fragments were recovered. I would bet that the Partition or the A frame would have exited, and probably the TSX as well.

Totch, good luck on your hunt!

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Recovered 338 cal 225 TSX. This bullet was recovered from a 200 pound Longhorn and acctualy put penetrated a 300 TBBC from a 375 H&H The terminal performance is outstanding






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