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Maybe we should all contact this guy

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Unread 12-14-2007, 11:29 PM
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Maybe we should all contact this guy

It appears he shoots some amazing groups...

Reviewing 240 grain Matchking bullets-
******* ******* of ******, TN
Date Posted: 8/8/2007

I personally chose this bullet for performance in my .300 RUM for extended yardages. So far it has proven to be a real winner yielding 1.75 inch to 2.58 inch groups at 1200m.

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Either he shoots world record groups, or it was a typo. Even if it was a typo, what could it be? 100 or 200 meter groups this size isn't anything to brag about, and he states extended range.
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Unread 12-14-2007, 11:48 PM
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Maybe they are 1 shot groups.
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Unread 12-15-2007, 12:53 AM
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I can't read an honest typo into this that makes sense. If he was talking MOA.. I'm not impressed. Even with the difference of meter to inch groups it is still amazing groups. Don't know.

But if this guy stands by this statement and claims it to be true... My personal BS meter is pegged and I would probably walk away. He is a legend in his own mind.

I agg'd 2.9" for (8) 5 shot targets at 600yd last year in SD in competiton and still finished 5th for group with a full blown Heavy Gun class BR rifle. And that is a far cry from 1200m's.

He is well under any current established world records in BR competition.

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Unread 12-15-2007, 02:31 AM
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Steve is this what you are looking for?
range it,check the wind, dial in correction, aim and only one shot
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Unread 12-15-2007, 07:48 AM
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it would be an impressive shooting gun at 1200 ft but to say the "groups" stay under 3" at 1200m, he better get that thing to a 1k competition.
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Unread 12-15-2007, 08:05 AM
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BULLLLLLLLLLLSHHHHHHHHHHHHH it. plain and simple, not a 1200yrds or meters. i know he shot them at 100 and then hung the target and missed the rest. wait i bet he even had it custom loaded by a friend of a friend whos sister's husband did the loading and measurments.
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Unread 12-15-2007, 09:28 AM
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Come on guys, don't me so hard on this guy.

I am sure of what happened. He shot three shots at 1200 meters, went up and estimated where they hit in the dirt and it looked like all three went into one 2 to 3" hole in the dirt. Where the other two went, who knows but that does not matter, only messes up the story line.

The 240 gr SMK is a good bullet. Ballistically, it could be redesigned to rival the 300 gr SMK in 338 easily as its ogive design is rather blunt and it has a long baring surface but as designed, it is an accurate bullet.

I have shot them to 1/2 moa in good conditions at 1K many times. I will say that I have got pared shots into the group size he is talking about but never three shots into that size groups. Not saying its possible but he talks like its a regular thing!!!

One of those would have to see to believe type deals. I agree, he needs to hit the BR curcuit, he would take home alot of hardware!!!

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