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Old 03-10-2011, 12:12 AM
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Looking for a simple annealing setup

Has anyone had any experience with anneal-rite annealing machine (Home Page). I am looking for a simple system to anneal approx. 100 brass at a time and have been searching for something to replace doing it by hand with a drill. I have about "searched" myself out and came across this but would love to hear from someone that has actually got some experience with it. Anyone see any plus or minuses with this setup. I just can't justify the better automated units for the quantities I do at a time and storage space is at a premium in my reloading room. If anyone has another idea I'd be all ears.

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Re: Looking for a simple annealing setup

$100 plus shipping then $30-50 for each case head size you use. I think it's a waste, too much for too little and don't see it as all that different from the drill your using(just holding something else). I'd look at the $300ish entry lever automatics or a used one from someone who upgraded.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:26 AM
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Re: Looking for a simple annealing setup

Cowboy, I have owned a few machines. In my opinion it is important to control the time and the temp that the case necks are in the flame. Plus I feel rotaion of the case to keep everything even is a must. I have a Bench Source and like it alot. I know you stated you wanted something simpler but tell ya what. Stop up by with your cases and we wll run them through my machine and maybe you can see what I am talking about or get a feel a better feel for what will work best for you and your needs.

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Stop up by with your cases and we wll run them through my machine and maybe you can see what I am talking about or get a feel a better feel for what will work best for you and your needs.

Jeff
Jeff: That is a very nice offer - I may take you up on that. I already own too much stuff that was used a couple of times and then I upgraded to what I should have bought the first time. Saving a buck today usually costs me 2 bucks tomorrow. I will keep your offer in mind and although I don't get up to Townsend much I have a son in Bozeman that we visit a lot - may just shoot the heck out of things and then bring both sets of brass up at the same time.
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get your hands on a piece of 3/8th's thick 6" x 8" CRS steel. A standard 3/8" reamer and 23/64's drill bit. ( note a 3/8th's dowl will do 98% of all the rounds out there, but you can use .25" or metric ones if you can find them) You'll also need a bunch of pins to go in the holes you ream (do about a dozen holes). Turn one end of the pins down for about .004" clearence with the case I.D. (I use standard dowl pins 3/4" long) Press the pins in the plate, and your done. Goto a welding supply house and buy two welder's temp sticks (look like crayons). You want a 400 degree and a 500 degree stick. Draw a line down the body from about 1/4" above the shoulder all the way down to the end of the neck. Now lay the plate on a burner on the stove (electric seems to work best here), and crank up the heat. Mark the plate with the 500 degree stick to tell you when it's hot. You'll also need a bowl of ice water to quench the cases very quickly to stop the anneal process. Stand the cases upside down on the pins and wait for the temp stick to melt (I recommend placing them in the pins about twenty secounds apart). When the case reaches 400 degrees it's about right for the quench, and by the time you get it quenched you'll be around 430 degrees.

You can make the pins out of drill rod, or even CRS steel. But dowl pins work best as they are made slightly over sized for a press fit. Been using three plates for ten years now, and most of the parts came out of the junk pile
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Jeff: That is a very nice offer - I may take you up on that. I already own too much stuff that was used a couple of times and then I upgraded to what I should have bought the first time. Saving a buck today usually costs me 2 bucks tomorrow. I will keep your offer in mind and although I don't get up to Townsend much I have a son in Bozeman that we visit a lot - may just shoot the heck out of things and then bring both sets of brass up at the same time.

Bring all you want. Once we hae her going it does not take long.

I use an infered temp gun to shoot the brass right when it exits the flame and adjust to suit.

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I like it!

So what makes electric work better? I have propane. Recovery, or temp control?


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