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Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

 
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:59 AM
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Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

Ok I have been reloading my own 8 x 57 rounds for a while. I have laoded everything from 125gr bullets to 196 grain. I have loaded all sorts of bullet styles. But what I want to know is is heavier better for long distance or are the lighter bullets the best. I am just looking for advice on what I should load to shoot the longer ranges. My nephew and I set up a range on the family farm that will let us back up to 1000 yrds but I really want to become proficient at 500 before I start moving back and want to make sure I load a round that will do it. Thanks for your help!!

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Old 12-26-2011, 12:08 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

oneyeopn,

I'd say the 200 SMK is probably the best bet for what you're looking for here. It's a true Match bullet and will handle these types of ranges quite well. You might try Varget or 4895, or possibly 4064 for best results. these were the powders I usually used in testing these bullets, and they generally shot quite well. Very easy bullet to get along with, too. It's not at all tempermental in the 8x57mm.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:55 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

Thank You Kevin. I myself have had good luck with 4064 and 4895 I have just stayed under 200 grain bullets because historically speaking the german snipers used the 186 grain aircraft 8mm bullets but if 200 or heavier works well then I really should try it. Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:54 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

Varget and the 200 gr Sierra Match King sure shoots great in my 8X57JS (Mauser) rifles.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

Ok guys I have a pound and a half of IMR4895 and 150 200 grain SMK's. I have found that the recommended loads in My reloading manual starts with a pretty slow load without much range. Where would you recommend that I start with my powder charges so I can play around and work it out best for my rifles. I hate to guess a starting point. Thanks for your input.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

My Hodgdon 2011 manual says a start load for the 8X57mm Mauser with IMR 4895 with a 200 gr bullet is 39.0 grs for 2112 fps and the max load is 45.0 grs for 2409 fps. Data was from a 24" barrel Remington case and Rem. 9 1/2 primer. COAL 2.970 Bullet used was a 200 gr Speer SP. This manual says that Varget and H4350 will get you 100 more fps. I have had good accuracy with 42.0 grs IMR 4064 with the 200 gr SMK. Load is the accuracy load from the Sierra manual and it says it is doing 2200 fps from a M48 Mauser with 23" barrel. In a Yugo M48 Mauser 43.5 grs Varget with Fed 210 match primer Rem case and the 200 gr SMK OAL 3.165 shoot really good. Sierra manual says the velocity should be 2250 fps.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Long Range Loads for 8 x 57

I have a Mauser marked DOU 44, produced in Bryne Bystrica arsenal in then Czechoslavakia for the German Army with the waffenamt stamps. My son bought this rifle with the original stock on it that had been cut down. It had a Timney trigger and an old Weaver 6X fixed scope which would not make elevation changes anymore. We replaced the stock with a Bell and Carlson and mounted a Burris 3-9X 40mm Ballistic Plex .

I have loaded Sierra 175 PH with 47 gains of 4064( data from Ken waters Pet Loads) and have obtained 3 shots touching in a vertical string with a MV of 2486-2490 at 100yds. I think this would be a good hunting load as I have used the Pro Hunter in 30 caliber with good results on deer.

I then tried the 200 SMK over Varget and H4350. I obtained better accuracy with max. loads and H4350. Best accuracy came at 52 grains, 2 grains under maximum.

Afterward I tried the 200 grain Nosler Accubond and got excellent accuracy at 100yds, less than an MOA (approximately .703) again with maximum charges of H4350 according to the Hodgdon Web Realoding page.
The next bullet that I will try will be the Hornady 196 grain Match bullet.

I also have some Nosler factory ammunition with the 200 Accubond. They are listed to produce 2475 fps. and come very close. They will group right at or just over 1 MOA. Hornady is now loading the 8x57 with their 196 grain match bullet called Vintage Match. Winchester now loads a 196 Powerpoint load for it as well.
I am very impressed with this rifle and the general overall workmanship and accuracy. I will keep trying to develop a long range accuracy load and will probably try the the Nosler 200grain Custom Match bullet as well.
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