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Unread 04-14-2009, 11:37 PM
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loading for a winchester 94

my father in law wants to load up some shells for his old winchester 30-30. the question is: He foung an old two die set for the 30-30. Can he load for his lever action with these dies by using the seater die to crimp? or does he need to get a 3 die set with a crimp die following the seater die? the dies are rcbs.

any advice on loading this cartridge would be much appreciated.

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    Unread 04-15-2009, 08:58 PM
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    Re: loading for a winchester 94

    You should be able to crimp with the 2 die set. I just loaded about 400 30-30 with some fairly old RCBS dies. I crimped all of those. Hope this helps
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    Re: loading for a winchester 94

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    You should be able to crimp with the 2 die set. I just loaded about 400 30-30 with some fairly old RCBS dies. I crimped all of those. Hope this helps

    +1, it's easy to use the 2 die set and get a great crimp. Just adjust the body of the die down until you get the appropriate crimp, then the actual seater assembly to get the correct seating depth.

    1) seat a bullet the correct depth without a crimp,
    2) back off the seater assembly
    3) Adjust the body of the die down to apply the correct crimp to that piece of brass
    4) with the cartridge up in the die, screw the seater assembly down snug against the bullet and lock everything down

    This will get you really close.

    One other thing, if the brass isn't all the same length, the crimps won't all be the same.


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    Last edited by AJ Peacock; 04-15-2009 at 09:29 PM. Reason: Added a more detailed explanation.
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    Re: loading for a winchester 94

    Be sure that the bullets you use have a crimp groove in them and crimp into this groove.
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    Re: loading for a winchester 94

    appreciate all the great info guys! This site is amazing!
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    Re: loading for a winchester 94

    AJ,

    Good call here. Nothing worse than trying to seat and crimp .30/30s on the same stroke. Separate steps, using the same die, just like you said. It's an extra die, but I actually really like the Lee Factory Crimp dies for this type of crimping. They're pretty cheap, and they really do a superb job.

    Dittos on the case length warning. Consistency is the key.

    KT
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