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Unread 10-02-2013, 07:36 PM
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Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

Hell with sandpaper, chuck it in a 5C spin index, mount the spin index on your mag chuck and grind it to size. Of course you need a surface grinder to size it...we have one of those.....

An alternative would be to use a toolpost grinder and your lathe and collet closer attachment. Have that too,
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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

    Dang... You guys got all the neat toys!!

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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by woods View Post
    LEE COLLET

    PROS - straighter ammo (less runout), no lube in neck, more consistant ID
    CONS - less bullet grip (unless you order a smaller mandrel or sand one down), learning curve

    RCBS EXPANDER TYPE NECK SIZER

    PROS - no learning curve
    CONS - lube in neck, more runout


    UHHH...................Lee Collet much better IMO
    Agreed, unless he's talking about their bushing dies. Bushing dies have the potential to form truer.
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    Unread 10-03-2013, 06:44 AM
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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

    Bushing dies are a bit hard to get. I order direct from RCBS and Redding and I've experienced backorder situations lately....
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    Unread 10-09-2013, 09:01 AM
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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

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    I am still at a complete and total loss as to the fascination with Neck Dies. Problems, plain and simple, just looking for a place to happen. They don't increase accuracy over F/L sizing, and assuming the F/L dies are set up properly, they don't add a bit of case life.
    Me too, but I'm convinced the reasons they do neck size is they don't understand how bottleneck cases headspacing on their shoulders fit the chamber aligning the bullet with the bore when fired as well as how firing and sizing changes the case shape and dimensions.

    One common thinking is neck sized cases fit the chamber better than full length sized ones as they rest on the chamber bottom when fired. Sierra Bullets put this reason in one of their loading manuals years ago. I mentioned this to Martin Hull and he laughed.
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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

    So what are you guys saying that it is better to full size in a proper way or I dont understand something?
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    Unread 10-09-2013, 11:50 AM
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    Re: Lee collet die vs. rcbs neck die

    Yes, it's better to properly full length size bottleneck cases.

    What do you think centers a .308 round's bullet in the bore when the primer fires and starts burning the powder before the bullet moves?
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