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Unread 07-25-2006, 07:32 PM
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Ladder or OCW style load development

Looking for some input on these types of load development.
If you have used either or both of these styles, which one do you prefer and why?
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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

    A waste of time, IMHO

    However, you can check this link and draw your own conclusions.

    http://home.earthlink.net/~dannewber...addevelopment/

    Here, Dan Newberry explains in detail his OCW method
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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

    If you have used either or both of these styles, which one do you prefer and why?

    I use both and have settled on a combination of the two to get close.
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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

    A waste of time? Care to elaborate?

    I do both or hybrid i guess...

    for LR rifles:
    at 500yd, or 1000
    1-2 shots/charge for 9-10 charges from max down to wherever that lands you.

    shoot low->high x2 at chosen distance.

    find nodes

    confirm nodes with 3, 5-shot groups at the chosen areas shot round robin at 500-1000

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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

    JB, do you mess around at 1 or 200 yards at all or just start things out at 500?

    you shoot 8 or 10, 2 shot groups and hopefully find a node then try to fine tune with 5 shot groups?

    kind of an "optimum ladder charge"
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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

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    A waste of time? Care to elaborate?

    I do both or hybrid i guess...

    for LR rifles:
    at 500yd, or 1000
    1-2 shots/charge for 9-10 charges from max down to wherever that lands you.

    shoot low->high x2 at chosen distance.

    find nodes

    confirm nodes with 3, 5-shot groups at the chosen areas shot round robin at 500-1000

    JB

    [/ QUOTE ]

    In the past, I and some others (in the AR forum) sustained a long discusssion on the merits of this method.

    Especially from a a scientific point of view, and concluded that there is nothing "magical" here that could remotely back any sort of statistical correlation.

    In short, the method could be defined, at its best, as a good and ordered manner of elaborating a load.

    Nothing else.

    Let me add, that if this method is the "holy grail" of reloading, millions around the world would adopted its virtues.

    Again, there is nothing "special" about it, just a way of thinking, just a way of ordering a procedure.
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    Re: Ladder or OCW style load development

    jb,

    That's exactly what I do BUT at much shorter distances than you. Why u ask? Cause me and my rigs don't shoot nearly as good as you and yours [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Yet!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] And they aren't nearly as pleasing to the eye [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Again, Yet!
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