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Which Kit to Start with????

 
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:51 PM
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Which Kit to Start with????

I am thinking about learning to reload, and the question I have is: What kit is the best for a novice to learn on? I have seen 3 kits at the local Bass Pro. They are the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit, Hornady Lock-NLoad Classic Kit & the Lyman T-Mag Expert Deluxe Reloading Kit.

Would any of these be a good choice? I'm lost and need the advice from people with experience.

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Old 08-04-2010, 09:35 PM
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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

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I am thinking about learning to reload, and the question I have is: What kit is the best for a novice to learn on? I have seen 3 kits at the local Bass Pro. They are the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit, Hornady Lock-NLoad Classic Kit & the Lyman T-Mag Expert Deluxe Reloading Kit.

Would any of these be a good choice? I'm lost and need the advice from people with experience.

Thanks
I normally try to steer new handloaders away from kits, simply because you can end up with a lot of stuff that you may not need or want. I recommend just buying a nice press, some dies, handheld primer, some type of powder measure or scale, and a few other small tools based on what you will be loading and give it a try. If you like it you can start adding all of the other stuff later. Also, for new loaders, check the classifieds on the forum and others, you can often find good deals on good reloading equipment. There are some very experienced handloaders here that will give you all the help you need.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:38 PM
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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

Im sold on the rock chucker press. It seems to be the best built for the money. As far as the kit, I like the digital scales, so that didnt work for me. I have a powder drop, that sits on the bench outside, and I find my self dumping powder out of the can, cause its in the 100's in Houston garages, and the kitchen table is far cooler. I dump close and trickle to exact weights. Bottom line is I pieced it together with the components that I wanted. If your hell bent on the kit, call RCBS and see if they have any "seconds" available. It will save you big money and they still carry the lifetime warranty.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

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I am thinking about learning to reload, and the question I have is: What kit is the best for a novice to learn on? I have seen 3 kits at the local Bass Pro. They are the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit, Hornady Lock-NLoad Classic Kit & the Lyman T-Mag Expert Deluxe Reloading Kit.

Would any of these be a good choice? I'm lost and need the advice from people with experience.

Thanks
A good reloading book and the RCBS Kit is a good way to start if you have no experience
with reloading.

I have the original rock chucker press (over 50 years old and still use it. and for the bigger
cases I use the newest supreme by RCBS because it is longer.
After you realy get into it you may want to but some nicer accessories but you will never need
a better press.

Hornady makes quality equiptment also but I just like the RCBS.

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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

I started with ...



... (paid $299 at BassPro a little over a year ago) and the only thing I don't use is the auto primer arm accessory, use the RCBS instead ...



I love mine and it fits my current needs and demands.

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Old 08-05-2010, 06:24 AM
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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

here is a link that I started about piecing a kit together. I am in the same boat as you. I priced everything at midway and it is pretty close to the price of one of the kits from bass pro
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:59 AM
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Re: Which Kit to Start with????

Okay, from the kits, there is no effective difference which you might choose. All of our makers build great tools and what each one puts in a kit varies only a little. No kit is complete so the extras you would have to buy is a little different but that's no great hurdle. Pick the color you want and pay the cost.

Now, I wonder why you are looking at kits anyway. Like MSLRH, I advise against kits because they lock you into tools of the same color (part of why the makers love to package them) and that's NEVER the ideal solution. It will cost little more, if any, to simply choose the better individual tools from the total spectrum.

The basic item in a kit is usually the press. Turret presses seem to offer a lot more than they really do, ditto any "quick change" die bushings. It only takes a few seconds to swap dies in single stage press anyway and the die lock rings keep them properly adjusted. There is no reason to lock dies in the press with a wrench, hand tight is plenty tight and allows easy swapping too.

Consider the inexpensive Lee Classic Cast (iron) press. It's big and strong enough to reload .50 machine gun ammo, very precisely machined, very good spent primer handling and a fully adjustable handle system. Lee stuff often gets put down on the web (unreasonably) but we can make ammo with their tools fully the equal of any. (I don't have a Classic Cast, I have a much more pricey press, but a friend does and I'm so impressed that it's what I'd replace my green press with if I needed to do so.)

Heated personal opinions based on shiney externals and pretty knurling aside, Lee's dies load as well as any other common dies. I've found there is as much variation between dies of the same maker as there is between brands. Dies are all made to SAMMI specifications and that's a range, maximum to minimum. Die dimensions are NOT a specific point some more pricey makers might hopefully get closer to, as some people seem to presume! When we pay more for a common die we are buying surface glitter, no more. And common dies are quite good, on average. Few loaders will ever develop the skill to use the slight advantages premium dies from Redding or Forster offer.

Digital anythings offer little to a skilled reloader and they can be quite querky. Get a beam scale and manual powder measure, any of those currently available are fine, and learn to use them properly. That'll save you money and will last three lifetimes. No digital instrument can do that.

Bottom line, quality ammo doesn't come from using magic tools, it takes skill and that has to be developed and that takes time. I can load equal quality ammo with any press, measure, scale, etc. if I use the same dies and cases. No one can improve the quality of his ammo simply by buying tools of a specific color or price range. You can feel safe in anything you end up with, it all works great so have fun!

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