close
Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Reloading

Reloading Berger Bullets

Reply

Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 09-25-2009, 06:22 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Elko, NV
Posts: 461
Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

After reading this thread: Load development methods...

I decided to try it.



66 gains of magpro,
cci mag primer,
Remington case,
Coal: 2.856
169.5g Wildcat 270 bullets
270 wsm.

Just like he described in his original post, I shot loads of increasing increments (1/2 grain) until I got a slightly sticky bolt – this happened at 68 grains. I then backed off 2 grains to 66 grains and loaded three. The above group is those 3 at 100 yards.

This is also the best group I’ve ever shot. I got lucky – but I’ll take it.

I couldn’t be happier. Thanks Kirby. Your method saved me lots of time, powder, and bullets.


Paul

Last edited by WildcatB; 09-25-2009 at 10:39 PM.
Reply With Quote
  •   #2  
    Unread 09-25-2009, 09:32 PM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Oct 2007
    Location: Mountians of SW NC, near Asheville
    Posts: 1,595
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    "Just like he described in his original post, I shot loads of increasing increments (1/2 grain) until I got a lightly sticky bolt – this happened at 68 grains. I then backed off 2 grains to 66 grains and loaded three."

    I didn't see his original post; did he suggest that 2 grains below stickly bolts would shoot well?

    If so, did he mention that 2 grains would be lot more change for small cartridges than larger ones?
    Reply With Quote

      #3  
    Unread 09-25-2009, 09:48 PM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Aug 2007
    Location: Olympia Washington
    Posts: 103
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    Where can we find his article? It isn't coming up in a search here.
    Reply With Quote
      #4  
    Unread 09-25-2009, 09:55 PM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2009
    Location: Montana
    Posts: 161
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    When you can do that 8 or 10 times in a row you will be assured you have something until then it is just as likely and more probable you had three fliers that landed in the same place. I have a new rifle I just had built that will shoot a group like that about 3 out of 50 shots, the rest of the time it would make a better high lift jack handle.
    __________________
    Bud Martin
    www.redboneoutfitting.com
    Reply With Quote
      #5  
    Unread 09-25-2009, 10:14 PM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2008
    Location: Elko, NV
    Posts: 461
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dewiseman View Post
    Where can we find his article? It isn't coming up in a search here.

    Here's the link: Load development methods...


    It's also posted above.



    .
    Reply With Quote
      #6  
    Unread 09-26-2009, 08:46 AM
    Gold Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2007
    Location: ALASKA
    Posts: 504
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    Nice group Paul. I'd take three fliers in a row like that any day of the week!
    Reply With Quote
      #7  
    Unread 09-26-2009, 09:47 AM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Aug 2003
    Location: NC, oceanfront
    Posts: 4,059
    Re: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.

    Kirby's 'method' amounts to nothing more than a pet load with limited conditions set..
    It's not development, and couldn't be imagined so with the majority of cartridges the rest of us shoot.

    Ya know,, you build a gun and work with it finding that it shoots good enough -a couple grains under excess. You build a few more & notice that it's loosely the same. WA-LA, Nothing to it(as though such a rule of thumb defines the cosmos)..
    Then you set something stupid a distance out back for customers to shoot at. You dial in every gun on the rack and slide a box of 'magic ammo' under each.
    Fools come into the shop, desperate to hit stupid things way way out there.
    They couldn't be happier with such a delusion..
    It's the very foundation of benchrest, to do something deluded as an achievement, with as little effort as possible.........
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes


    Similar Threads for: Kirby Allen’s “no load development” load development method.
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    338 Rum load development D.Camilleri Reloading 12 06-20-2011 01:47 AM
    Liink to Ladder/Audette Method of Load Development BountyHunter Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 9 06-12-2011 04:10 PM
    .243 load development ajridgedell Reloading 14 01-23-2011 08:55 PM
    Load Development gonehuntingagain Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 2 06-08-2004 10:31 AM
    Ladder Method of Load Development BountyHunter Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 6 08-05-2002 11:25 PM


    All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:35 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
    All content ©2010-2015 Long Range Hunting, LLC