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Old 10-23-2013, 08:09 PM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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Just read through the thread. I'm no expert, but why is everyone saying that this is head seperation? All of the brand NEW brass I have ever bought for my 7mm has had this shinny ring just above the head. I know that originaly I thought the same thing. Then I started inspecting my brand new brass and it had the same shinny ring, right out of the bag. I know that you are taught when learning to reload, that this is an indication of head seperation. But on my 7mm and my friends 7mm's that I load for, all of them have the same ring on all of our brass new and old. Is this just a 7mm thing? Has anyone else noticed this?
I don't see anything wrong with your brass either. I've never loaded a belted magnum case before, but when I resize my 22-250 brass it has exactly the same appearance where the base of the sizing die seems to try sizing it a couple of thousandths more. I notice that appearance after resizing the first time. I'm on my 7th reload now & the appearance hasn't changed when I resize the brass. I believe most die manufacturers will make a free change to your sizing die which will fit your chamber if you send a fired case from that chamber along with your die to be reworked. At least RCBS offered to do that for nothing many years ago. I'm not sure it would change the appearance though. Drop them a line & ask advice from the company that manufactured your dies.
I've had the beginnings of case separation before & it looked significantly different than that.
If your sizing die is resizing that portion of your case more than 1/8 - 3/16 inch below that, then it is being worked more and will work harden faster very near that spot. I would suspect the belted portion would also resist being worked as much, simply because it's much thicker there, which I think would make that portion get worked even more.
If you send them your photo along with a question about what you see, I'm certain they would give you similar input & probably better input.
There are others on this site that have more experience than me. Trickymissfit, JE Custom & bowhunthard are the first ones that come to mind, however there are many more, I just can't recall their names.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:38 PM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

I believe that my brass was just too hard to re size and it was springing back. I annealed my brass and have gotten amazing results. Now the tricky part is bumping the shoulder back to -.002 . I am now a believer in annealing your brass.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:39 AM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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Neither, the citric acid in fruit juices is the same, but the concentration is weaker. I bought pure citric acid powder from Amazon. I think I paid approx. $20 for 5 lbs. a year ago.
It's enough to last me till I die, but I'm 72 years old.

It's exactly the same acid as in any fruit. What Amazon has is the pure stuff.
I actually tried generic Real Lemon juice to see how it works. I was shocked at how well it worked. Once mixed, it needs to be refrigerated or it will begin to spoil. In powder form it will not spoil.
You can actually make lemonade with this stuff, but it won't have any color
For me I discovered, 30 minutes is enough time to do most of what it needs to do.
However, I allowed it to set with brass in it for approx. 15-16 hours & discovered primer residue cleaned off much easier. I also noticed, carbon residue on the neck of my fired brass was also much easier to remove.
The carbon residue on the case neck was very slightly oily for some reason. Perhaps using a paper towel wasn't completely cleaning of the Imperial sizing die wax.
Tarnish is oxidized brass & all the citric acid does is to return the tarnish back to it's original state. Then it becomes passive & does nothing else. I've considered putting a little dish soap in the solution, to see if that makes it more effective on the carbon on the case necks.
If you buy this stuff in small quantities, it becomes a bit expensive.
If you want to try it out first, do like I did.... Buy some Real Lemon concentrate or generic concentrate. It made me more comfortable to make the purchase of this powder at Amazon.

The solution gets weaker with each use which in turn increases the time it takes to work. But the concentration isn't critical. I use 2-3 tablespoons per quart. I also heat it up in a microwave after removing it from the refrigerator. A warm solution works a little faster than a cold solution. I've never made a solution so strong as to where it didn't still work well.
Do some research on the Internet, it will allow you to use it with complete confidence it will not damage your brass. It'll clean cooper also, but if you have tarnished bullets with exposed lead tips, it will turn the lead black. This doesn't seem to affect performance of the bullet.
This stuff cleans calcium deposits out of coffee pots also. It has a lot of uses. If you're married, your wife may start using it faster than you do.
almost two years ago, my doctor put my fat butt on a diet. Twenty months later and 83lb. he tells me it's time to start getting more exercise. I tell him I'm out fishing four times a week and ready to drop when I come home. Not good enough for him! He tells be to try golf or maybe even running a little bit. So I chose golf (the guy is a sadist!!). I start picking up clubs at Goodwill and the second time around shops over the last year. Woods are usually somekind of an aluminum alloy, and I found that "Soft Scrub" and a sponge does a very nice job on them, and actually polishes them to a certain extent. Well I tried a dozen cases the otherday to see what happens. These cases were very dirty, and just range pick up stuff. Cleaned them right up! I ran this new found idea across a buddy of mine, and he told me what he was doing! He uses one of the older RCBS rotary tumblers (actually two). After cleaning the brass as we normally do, he runs it thru the other tumbler with coarse ground corn meal plus some stuff Lyman sells in a bottle. Cases look like they've been polished!
I think I'm going to lay my hands on one of those tumblers this winter
gary
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:45 AM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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He uses one of the older RCBS rotary tumblers (actually two). After cleaning the brass as we normally do, he runs it thru the other tumbler with coarse ground corn meal plus some stuff Lyman sells in a bottle. Cases look like they've been polished!
I think I'm going to lay my hands on one of those tumblers this winter
gary
I use a Thumlers Tumbler (Model A-R-12). I think it's 40 years old now & still works great. However the rubber container is not as pliable as it once was. I had to make new Delrin bushing for the shafts. It's hexagon shaped inside. I gave up using the ground walnut shells as media. I never would have guessed the corn cob media would work better, but I only use it for the final polishing. I really like how fast it slides out if the brass. The walnut media would sometime clump a little, which made it a little more difficult to empty the brass. I've never tried corn meal before. I didn't know you could buy it in more than one granular size. It never hurts to have more options.
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:32 PM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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almost two years ago, my doctor put my fat butt on a diet. Twenty months later and 83lb. he tells me it's time to start getting more exercise. I tell him I'm out fishing four times a week and ready to drop when I come home. Not good enough for him! He tells be to try golf or maybe even running a little bit. So I chose golf (the guy is a sadist!!). I start picking up clubs at Goodwill and the second time around shops over the last year.
gary
You mean you listened to your doctor?!? And actually lost weight and started to exercise?
You know how rare it is for that to happen?

God bless you, dude.
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:54 PM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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You mean you listened to your doctor?!? And actually lost weight and started to exercise?
You know how rare it is for that to happen?

God bless you, dude.
it's getting expensive these days. I just gave away $4K worth of clothes.

It was really pretty easy to loose the weight. He had me cut my red meat intake back 50%, and lay off the salt. After two weeks I was doing about one third of the red meat intake. He told me to go ahead and supplement the difference with turkey, chicken, and fish. Have had two steaks in the last 20 months, and now I don't miss them. Lately (last three months) I've been working on cutting back my gluten intake, and been eating a lot more rice instead. Late night snacks was another issue I always have had, and now replace them with a piece of fruit. Soda pop is next.
gary
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:55 AM
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Re: I have a Reloading problem I need help to solve.

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almost two years ago, my doctor put my fat butt on a diet. Twenty months later and 83lb. he tells me it's time to start getting more exercise. I tell him I'm out fishing four times a week and ready to drop when I come home. Not good enough for him! He tells be to try golf or maybe even running a little bit. So I chose golf (the guy is a sadist!!). I start picking up clubs at Goodwill and the second time around shops over the last year. Woods are usually somekind of an aluminum alloy, and I found that "Soft Scrub" and a sponge does a very nice job on them, and actually polishes them to a certain extent. Well I tried a dozen cases the otherday to see what happens. These cases were very dirty, and just range pick up stuff. Cleaned them right up! I ran this new found idea across a buddy of mine, and he told me what he was doing! He uses one of the older RCBS rotary tumblers (actually two). After cleaning the brass as we normally do, he runs it thru the other tumbler with coarse ground corn meal plus some stuff Lyman sells in a bottle. Cases look like they've been polished!
I think I'm going to lay my hands on one of those tumblers this winter
gary
I love golf! The best damn thing about golf is it keeps people out of the mountains. So go ride around in a stupid cart chasing around a little tiny white piece of **** ball. When you hit the damn thing it doesn't go straight and it lands in the water or off of some dumb ass idiots house that decide to build next to a golf course. Then you drop a few F bombs and wrap your shinny newly polished golf club around a tree after slamming it into the ground three or four times as if it was the clubs fault. Then you toss it in the lake.

Hey that sounds like great freaking exercise. My legs and heart and lungs are all getting great work out hiking up and down the mountain checking trail cams, glassing, and looking for huge nocturnal bucks that play hide and seek better than a blonde skeleton in a closet.
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