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Old 04-04-2006, 01:00 PM
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How to get started

Hello All,
Let me start by saying I know almost nothing when it comes to reloading. I recently was given (free [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) a Dillon 550B loading press. The press is several years old but the box was never opened, so its basically band new. Anyhow, How to I go about getting started and is this a good press to get started. Like I said, I don't know much but I definitely want to get started. Where can I find a good instruction on how to begin.

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Old 04-04-2006, 01:28 PM
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Re: How to get started

Frankie,

See if you can find someone that is "good" at reloading and get some time with that person.

Some will say get the "book". Not bad advice.

Midway USA has the Guntec video series that covers a broad spectrum of the rifle/reloading/shooting theme. At 29.95 don't think it would be a bad deal. Link
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: How to get started

Frankie

the press is one of the best progressive presses out there. if you are wanting to load lots of ammo this is the press for you. It will load most rifle cartridges. you will possible need a few accessories that you dont have.

here is a good place to look and ask more questions about the 550
http://www.brianenos.com/store/dillon.html
http://dillonprecision.com/template/...;cookieClean=1

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Old 04-04-2006, 07:19 PM
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Re: How to get started

It's a great press and system for the advanced loader who is going to need large volumes of mediocre ammo. It is just not for beginners. I would leave it in the box for now and look into a quality single stage press like a Rockchucker or Special 5 from RCBS to learn on. Get the feel for what things should feel like. With a single stage press you can visually verify the powder charges and weigh them to perfection. With a Dillon this can't be done. When you get a machine gun or start shooting .223 or lots of handun ammo that Dillon will be a great asset. For now though it will make more mistakes faster than you can fix them. 10 minutes at the handle of the Dillon could cost you hours pulling bullets. Hang onto it though. It is money in the bank.
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What are you planning to load for and how much will you shoot?
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:44 PM
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No disrespect, but I think Hired Gun should try a Dillon 550B or at least look at a Blue Press before giving advise to a person trying to use one. First go to Brian Enos Website and look through all of the information for the 550B and general Dillon information. Second, call the number listed and they will walk you through everything you will need to get started. Third, make sure to order a AT500 powder die and a funnel, the 550B video along with a good scale (any beam scale for reloading in grains will work). Then you can let everyone know what a great thing a 550B can be for the beginner.

The Dillon 550B is good for loading a lot of ammo, but truly shines when you take your time with it. The problem that Hired Gun is refering to is the powder thrower does not meter well with long grained powder, but neither does any other powder thrower under +/- $2500. I have a Redding BR thrower and it will get you in the ballpark, but you will still need to trickle up and measure each round if you want anything near match ammo. The great thing about a 550 is that even when you measure each powder charge you are still performing all of your functions at once (deprime, reprime necksizing, setting bullet and crimping if required).

I would agree with Hired Gun if you were asking about a 650 or 1050 with auto indexing. A begginer can get into alot of trouble quickly. Dont't get me wrong they are great if you want a lot of very good ammo, but they are very difficult for the beginner.

Remeber that David Tubbs uses a 550B with a very advanced scale (promethius sp?) to load all of his ammo when he is winning every long range event I can think of. Also look at LTRDavid for instructions to reload true match ammo. I have used single stage presses and would recommend them to someone who is trying to save a buck until they know if they are interested in reloading, but I have yet to see one keep it after they try a Dillon.

Good Luck!
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Old 04-10-2006, 11:15 PM
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Viking, I have read the Blue Press plenty. I still would like to have a Dillon XL 650 but I donít need one for the shooting Iím doing now. Brian Enos is loading pistol ammo. For load development it is not practical when only 3 loads per powder charge are being loaded. They are great for high volume work. No question about that. Enos is most likely is using flake or ball powder. Most of the powders I use are tubular powders like RL-19, 22,25 or IMR 4350, 4831, 7828 doesn't go through powder measures very fine. When Iím running near redline a 3/10 variance will blow my group. If I was doing 22-250 with H-380 I have no doubt it would throw match grade ammo for that. If you are running a rifle with a wide margin either side of optimum charge weight it would be fine.

I didn't say I had never used one. I used to use a Dillon 650 when I was doing action shooting with my 686. At the time I was shooting 250 to 500 rounds a week. Just enough to stay proficient enough to run 4" groups at 100 yards with factory iron sights or to draw and rip off 12 shots at 25 yards on 4Ē targets at 25 yards in 7 seconds. It was good pistol ammo. For long range rifle shooting where I like my extreme spreads to stay in the single digits if not less than 5 fps, I just donít feel it can maintain the precision with tube powders in the 1/2 of a 10th grain of powder or better that I can trickling on my beam scale.

I went over the sites you listed and even David Wilson feels the need to weigh his completed rounds to be sure there really is powder in them. I didnít realize the 550 could be set up with a funnel rather than a measure. I still stand by what I said. A single stage or even a turret press would be a better choice for someone who has never loaded before. If he is starting out with just doing pistol ammo or small case shells and ball powder then by all means set it up and crank away. It is still an expensive complex machine to set up, maintain and troubleshoot for the first timer compared to where with a single stage press and minimal instruction, you will be producing match grade ammo in a couple hours of opening the boxes.



If he had said he had been using it awhile and had run into a glitch my post would have been completely different.
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