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How close is close enough?

 
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:08 PM
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Re: How close is close enough?

Oh hell, I know it. I just never save em unless I'm framin em. I do not think I have ever fired a twenty round group. I'm just to cheap to send that much ammo threw the same piece of paper......................Duke
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:49 PM
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Re: How close is close enough?

Given that pretty much any basic reloader here assembles ammo as well as Bart, I'm somewhat motivated to believe we all shoot wallet groups -all the time.

The problem is, this doesn't really appear to be the case.
I personally have to put some effort into my ammo, including load development, to get guns shooting to their potential. And so it's somewhat 'special' to me when I manage it.
It also appears to me that by far most final results in both F-Class, and 1k IBS, blush to the .4MOA pic posted. So apparently not all folks are doing so well at LR as Bart.

But maybe we should just BELIEVE we are despite..............
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:45 PM
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Re: How close is close enough?

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It also appears to me that by far most final results in both F-Class, and 1k IBS, blush to the .4MOA pic posted. So apparently not all folks are doing so well at LR as Bart.
Get out on the range at 5 AM, set up and shoot at 5:30 while the sun's still well below the horizon. Your test groups will be shot in air still enough to see, with a decent spotting scope, bullet holes in the black a long, long ways away. As the sun gets closer to being visible over the horizon, the air often starts moving a little bit and drags bullets in flight with it.

Others with similarly loaded ammo I've mentioned have been out at that time of day at similar ranges shooting .2 MOA and smaller 10-shot test groups.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:42 PM
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Get out on the range at 5 AM, set up and shoot at 5:30 while the sun's still well below the horizon. Your test groups will be shot in air still enough to see, with a decent spotting scope, bullet holes in the black a long, long ways away. As the sun gets closer to being visible over the horizon, the air often starts moving a little bit and drags bullets in flight with it.

Others with similarly loaded ammo I've mentioned have been out at that time of day at similar ranges shooting .2 MOA and smaller 10-shot test groups.
I agree. Conditions like that are what you want to take as much of the variables out as possible. Competitions don't always have ideal conditions.
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