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Old 11-20-2013, 11:16 AM
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All of the above is GREAT advice.
I have no idea what small hole gauges cost right now, as the last set I bought was about ten or twelve years ago. I paid a little over thirty dollars for them. The last set I bought were the "D" shaped ones instead of the normal round ones. I can measure the I.D. of a bolt face with these and yet measure anything else I'd normally measure with the round ball type. I have Mitutoyos, B&S, and maybe Starretts. The only thing I like better are Unimics, and they are pretty expensive. Enco seems to have the best price on them, I might add.

Another issue that's out there, and most folks don't even know it exists is indicator quality. Yes most meet some Federal spec, and at least that's a start. A lot of guys depend on long travel indicators, but most of of them have about 10% backlash in them! Yes they do make jewelled ones, and they are pretty expensive. The better setup is the small "wand" type indicator that will have at the worst case 3% lag built into it. Some dont have any backlash in them. I've owned indicators that read as close as .000020", but these are a specialty item that are used to check gauging. I still own two or three .000050" indicators, but rarely if ever use them anymore. My goto indicators are the .0005" ones, but will use a one tenth one from time to time.
I recommend the B&S Best Test and the Interrapids.

I would not buy the typical carbide tipped micrometers. You just don't need them, and the standard faced ones have a better feel. Buy goods once, and never worry. I use mostly Starrett and Lufkins (no longer made), but also own several Brown & Sharpes. One pair of Lufkins I own were made in 1947, and are still very accurate.
gary
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:37 AM
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Re: Help getting setup

Thanks all! I really appreciate the input.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:07 AM
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Unless I missed it I don't see a scale, other than the Chargemaster. A good beam scale and a set of check weights would be on my list. I don't completely trust electronic scales or measuring tools either for that matter.

Bob
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:18 PM
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Re: Help getting setup

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Unless I missed it I don't see a scale, other than the Chargemaster. A good beam scale and a set of check weights would be on my list. I don't completely trust electronic scales or measuring tools either for that matter.

Bob
A friend also let me borrow an rcbs beam scale. But I am looking into a Dillon one for myself.

I'm surprised no one seems to have any confidence in the Chargemaster. I used it last week, weighed the first 5 throws in a row, all were within .1grain easily- I did this before charging any actual rounds. After that I would measure every 10 rounds. After charging 80 rounds, I randomly checked 30 rounds. All within .1gr

I will listen to the advice here and pick up a beam scale as well though.

Is the Dillon one good enough?
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:27 AM
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A friend also let me borrow an rcbs beam scale. But I am looking into a Dillon one for myself.

I'm surprised no one seems to have any confidence in the Chargemaster. I used it last week, weighed the first 5 throws in a row, all were within .1grain easily- I did this before charging any actual rounds. After that I would measure every 10 rounds. After charging 80 rounds, I randomly checked 30 rounds. All within .1gr

I will listen to the advice here and pick up a beam scale as well though.

Is the Dillon one good enough?
That's about the same procedure I use when checking thrown charges. I have 2 beam scales on the bench and I'll check one with the other when I set up. When I'm running max loads I will weigh every 5th. charge twice. When setting up for a new load I have fat fingered the weights more than once, the second scale catches it every time, it seems to happen more often than it used to. I'm sure the Dillon scale is a good one though I've never personally used one.

It sounds like you are getting off to a great start!

Bob
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:31 PM
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Re: Help getting setup

Thanks Bob,

I'm finding this activity very fun. I love these little details, it's really helping me with staying sharp in general.

All these ways to measure things is pretty amazing, I am impressed to say the last by those that invented these tools.
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:11 PM
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Re: Help getting setup

Ditto's on the beam scale. the electronics seem to read a wild one every now and again. Trust my beam scale implicidly and keep it clean! And on a level surface.
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