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Old 08-25-2009, 05:31 AM
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help choose load

was doing some load development for new varmint gun today and found what i view as funny results. the higher the charge load the worse the groups seemed to get. which isnt idea since them my loads are going to be slow.
loading for .223
80gr target bullets
ar2208 powder whinchester small primers
remington brass
load started at 23gr and went up in .3 grs to 25.1. that isnt max yet
so should i look above and see what max is and see if i get a node higher up (its close to max though i think)
should i settle with slow load
i still need to take it out to 2 or 300m but just want some advice. here hte targets at 100loads go left to right then bottom to top for last sheet which i cant rotate for some reason,
shot one round at each target then the next in a round robbin type thing. the reason for the last bullet hole by its self is since i mist a target on the last series of loads so i just kept going and then drew them in. ignore the bullet holes with the black lines on them in the last 3 targets.
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:42 AM
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Re: help choose load

Don't get caught up in the screamin speed game...If your lookin for groups at moderate ranges then speed is not really a big issue. Find out where it shoots the best and leave it alone.

Speed doesn't matter if you can't keep it on the paper. Otherwise your gonna be tellin yourself "well I came in second place but she sure is fast"!!
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:45 AM
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Re: help choose load

I would try a different powder. I have had good luck with varget and Barnes varmit grenade bullets.

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Old 08-25-2009, 11:44 AM
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Re: help choose load

those groups are dire- this is interesting as i had the same with my remmy xcr tact' lr

iv tried so many loads but then - found a gem :-)

try this :

Nosler 50g ballistic tips

Viht N133 25g

or Benchmark 25g

i use rem 7.5 primers and the results...

iv achieved .75" @ 300 yards and i was really chuffed- i need more room to test it further but these rounds decimate anything furry or feathered unfortunate enough to get in its way... let me know how you get on... James
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:08 PM
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Re: help choose load

mn hunter. adi2208 is the same thing as varget.
james im trying to use these hi bc bullets that i have for long range. aiming to shoot bunnies at 600yrds. they hava a bc of.440 and are match grade made locally here from berger j4 jackets.
judd im really looking for a long range round so thats my issue.
loading manual says that ill be getting around 2600 with 23 grs. (dont have a chrono)
or local fohn wind has started so wont get any calm for the next few days.
but think i may load uo a few higher and see and test the slower ones at longer ranges and hope they have constant velocities.
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Old 08-26-2009, 03:47 AM
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Re: help choose load

My rifle has a long target barrel and so pushes out 3400ft.ps with those loads i gave you.

I have taken rabbits at 300- literally detonates them :-)

Iv yet to map my rifle to 400+yards i reckon with the bullets it likes i would feel confident on a still day and thats the key with the .223 to take a bunny at 500 yards- as for 600 well id like to see your grouping with the heavier bullets at that range

Iv never tried anything heavier than 60g i wouldn't mind trying some of your bullet heads, fancy shipping me some??

Whats the combo your using then??? mines a Remmy 700 XCR Tactical, 26" barrel 1:9 twist, bell & carlson floated and pillar bedded stock with a Nightforce 8-32 NXS- its favorite load is remmy brass with 26.5g Benchmark, 6.5 remmy small rifle primers & 50g nosler ballistic tip (coe of .247 i think...??) these group a 5 shot string- 12mm @ 200 yards, 19mm @ 300yards - yet to map the further

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Old 08-26-2009, 08:25 AM
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Re: help choose load

james mate those are some wicked groups. you should be nocking the bunnies flat then. i knocked over 2 the other day at 230 and 226. the silencer is mint. the others dont know what to do. a nightforce. soooo jealous. i wish i had one. currently looking for a scope for my .223. been taking the scope of my .308 for it. but want more magnification than 14.
this guy also makes 69gr bullets that have a bc of .400.
i have a stevens which ive put in a choate varmint stock. lightened the trigger with different spring, bedded action and came with a silencer. barrel is around 22 inchs i think. havent measured it though. 1in 9 twist. so far the 23 grs varget, 80gr, remi brass whinchester small primers one group in load development of .174 outside of holes.
about shipping you some bullets. yea sure. where abouts are you. im after some zee rings and inserts for mew scope. maybe we could come to some sort of arrangement.
these bullets are $nz50 for 100.
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