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Old 05-21-2011, 09:03 AM
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Has anybody tried these two tools?

I am sure this has been asked before, but has anyone tried these two tools? The headspace gauge and the collet for the belted mags are the tools I am referring to. If you have used them, then what do you think about them?

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Old 05-21-2011, 11:32 AM
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I am sure this has been asked before, but has anyone tried these two tools? The headspace gauge and the collet for the belted mags are the tools I am referring to. If you have used them, then what do you think about them?

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he makes the best belted mag sizing die out there right now (that can be bought). His headspace gauge is fair at best. I built one just like it fifteen years ago, and found the indicators spindle flexed all over the place. But there also is a much better way that will work with the same setup.
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Old 05-21-2011, 08:11 PM
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he makes the best belted mag sizing die out there right now (that can be bought). His headspace gauge is fair at best. I built one just like it fifteen years ago, and found the indicators spindle flexed all over the place. But there also is a much better way that will work with the same setup.
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Is the belted mag sizing die worth it? Would it save enough in brass life to justify the $90 for it? Also, when you say that there is a better way to measure shoulder bump, what do you use?
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Is the belted mag sizing die worth it? Would it save enough in brass life to justify the $90 for it? Also, when you say that there is a better way to measure shoulder bump, what do you use?
keep in mind that I've never personally used one, but I do know a couple guys that have been using it for a year or two (roughly). The one thing it seems to do better than most is in the way it sizes the body down close to the band. It seems to be able to accurately controll that first 3/8th" better than the others. Is it worth $90? Actually that's not all that bad when you look at a Redding. I started using a Hornaday with my 270mag, and later switched over to a Forster. The Hornaday just didn't handle the job all that well, and the Forster left me wanting. I did get a chance to try a Redding for a few rounds, and it was no better than the Forster when it came to full length sizing. What I'm really interested in is if he does the .450 marlin round. I'm going to shoot him an email on these two calibers to see what he has to say.

Back to the indicator setup. It's really not as good as the Stoney Point/Hornaday system. He is using a good indicator; as it has a scale built into it instead of the gear & rack (much more accurate). This is the system I use right now, but have a project underway that should solve all the problems of flex and yet come out cheaper. I will tell you that it will use a scale similar to a digital caliper, but will be similar to the one they often install on a Bridgeport head. Everything else is different. For 98% of the folks out there the Stoney Point setup is more than good enough and a heck of a lot cheaper
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Larry does do the .450 Marlin case! I'll be ordering in a die and the collets todo what I want very soon
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got an email from Larry this morning, and he answered a lot of questions I had. The basic concept of his collet die is to reduce the diameter at the case just above the band. You will still need a regular die set, and will not use the die he sells everytime (maybe every four or five firings). The die will not bump the case shoulder back (many folks like to head space off of the shoulder instead of the band). I'm going to order two dies
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