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Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

 
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:12 AM
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

My "Hart Tool" arrived the other day.
Reason I bought it was to try and save some 30-378 Wby brass, that was ready for the recycle bin.
At this point I have to say I'm less than impressed with it. Trying to find a constant "tap" has been a challange. What works on one case doesn't fix another. The only way to tell is to seat the primer. Will this fix last through multiple firing or has it become another step in brass prep.
Feel my $$ would have been better spent just putting it towards a new supply of brass.
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

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My "Hart Tool" arrived the other day.
Reason I bought it was to try and save some 30-378 Wby brass, that was ready for the recycle bin.
At this point I have to say I'm less than impressed with it. Trying to find a constant "tap" has been a challange. What works on one case doesn't fix another. The only way to tell is to seat the primer. Will this fix last through multiple firing or has it become another step in brass prep.
Feel my $$ would have been better spent just putting it towards a new supply of brass.
Just finished another batch of brass--opinion hasn't changed.
With the same two taps--about like setting a 16 penny nail in a piece of wood--I'm experiencing results from no noticeable change to where the primer cannot be seated at all.
Again my experience has been solely with Weatherby 30-378 brass.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:22 PM
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

philny1,

Thanks for the feedback. Guess I'll hold off until I get a clearer consensus on a thumbs up or thumbs down. Right now the user opinion remains mixed.
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

I bought mine to salvage a bunch of 223 brass. 223 brass is always loosening the primer pockets. It does work, but it is a lot of work to save a 6 cent case. I use a light brass hammer and get inconsistent results. Sometimes I get the blasted pocket too tight, and a primer won't fit in again. Sometimes I don't get enough swage, and the primers only slightly better than it was originally. Now I find I've slightly mushroomed the post the case fits on, making 223 cases a bit of a challenge to slide on. I would have expected the post to be hardened, but that's not the case. I'll remove the mushroom from the post, and go to a lighter (yet) hammer, probably a plastic or leather one. By the way, be prepared for Harts to charge you Sales Tax on your mail order, even though the transaction doesn't take place in their state. They won't back down, and why should they? It's an extra 8% or so in their pockets for every sale. I work in mail order too, and know how sales tax works.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:38 AM
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

From what experience I have it will only allow you to swage pocket so much. Eventually the diameter of the tool in the primer pocket will not allow any aditional swage of brass pushed into pocket. Directions say to tap tool until it becomes held in place by primer pocket. If I lift tool off of stand and the shell does not come with it I figure I have not swaged it enough.
I am using my press to set the primers and all has been well. I would not recomend a hand primer after this process though.
I bought this to salvage Nosler 300 RUM brass necked up tp .338 edge and now use it on all of my brass. So far I have noticed the force to set the primers is consistant from one shell to the next. I feel the money spent on this tool has allowed me additional firings. Hope others may have same experience.

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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

I think the tool's best application would be on the more expensive brass and/or brass where one has a lot of prep time into it like outside neck turning, primer pocket uniforming, flash hole uniforming, etc...

I can't see myself messing with it for cheaper brass that is easily replaced and used for less precise purposes. Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep an eye out for other's experiences. Right now it's running about 50/50 thumbs up versus thumbs down.

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Old 08-18-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Hart's "case saver"primer pocket swager

Okay, this might be a bit off the topic but bear with me...

I have some 6.5-284 cases that cost me a bit, and while the primer pockets will still hold a primer, they are far from 'tight' any more. For the most part, I wouldn't worry about it enough to get a primer swage tool just for these cases... what does worry me is that a number of them (guessing 15-20%) have the heads swelled enough that they 'click' going into a regular shell holder. They still hold primers, they still shoot fine, it's just a minor PITA wrestling them in and out of the priming tool and/or the press.

Any tools out there to 'fix' this (short of ordering new brass)?
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