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H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

 
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:57 AM
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H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

I've spent hours and hours working up a great load for my 7mm using H1000, with excellent results by the way. I've now started to focus my time on getting a load worked up for my Howa 1500 .243. With powder and supplies being limited at this time, I'm thinking of using what I've got since I have copious amounts of it. If I don't get acceptable results, I will obviously invest in more popular loading materials for my load. This is just out of pure curiousity, brought upon by being impatient and not wanting to wait to find more powder . Last night I sat down and worked up 5 loads each of the following 44grs, 44.5grs, 45grs, 45.5grs, 46grs, 46.5grs, and 47grs. All of these are seated .0075" off the lands, and are using WLRM primers. All rounds are using 87gr Berger VLD Hunting bullets. I have no idea how these are going to shoot, and don't know what my max load is going to be. This experiment could flop for all I know, we shall see. From the research I have done, a lot of guys don't get pressure signs using H1000 even with a compressed loads, and they are typically shooting 95gr+ bullets. Taking careful notice while loading all of these rounds, I found that even with my 47gr loads, none of the loads were compressed. So I imagine that I should be ok all the way up to 47gr, but that's the reason for starting low and working my way up. Another thing that I learned from reading was that most guys that are using H1000 with the .243, are shooting 95gr or greater bullets. Now for my question. Has anyone experimented with H1000 in a .243 using lighter than 95 gr bullets? If you have, what were your findings? I will be sure to share my experience tomorrow with these loads that I have worked up. I'm going to the range tonight to see.
Thanks

Edit: Any predictions?
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Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x44 EBR-1 MOA scope
BlackHawk 0 Moa picatinny rail
BlackHawk 30mm rings
BlackHawk Bipod
Rifle Basix Sav-2 Trigger
168gr Berger VLD Huning Bullets
Remington Brass
WLRM Primers
H1000 69.4 grains
Bullets seated .010" off the lands

Howa 1500 .243
Nikon Prostaff BDC 3-9x40
Custom Cherry Wood Stock (Action bedded, barrel floated)
Winchester Brass
87 gr Berger VLD
WLR Primers
Still working on load

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:20 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

IMO you are just blowing powder into the wind. H1000 will work in there but, it is really for big case capacity magnums. You would be better off with H335, 380 or 414. Imr 3031, 4064, or 4320.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:32 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

Hodgdon website list these .243 loads with H1000. They lightest bullet though is 95gn.

95 GR. NOS PART
H1000 .243" 2.650" 45.0 2946 44,900 CUP 48.0C 3077 50,000 CUP
100 GR. SPR BTSP
H1000 .243" 2.650" 44.0 2876 45,700 CUP 47.0C 3000 49,800 CUP
105 GR. HDY A-MAX
H1000 .243" 2.760" 43.0 2798 45,400 CUP 46.0C 2930 50,200 CUP
107 GR. SIE BTHP
H1000 .243" 2.850" 43.0 2787 44,700 CUP 46.0C 2918 50,100 CUP

Glad I looked this up! The H1000 and 105 A-MAX looks interesting to me. May try that one someday.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:43 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

You are by no means wasting powder! In fact 47 grains of H1000 and 87 grain berger shoots amazing in my factory 243 and my new custom will get H1000 under a 105 Berger I Realy like H1000 in the 243 great velocity amazing acuracy and some reaserch is showing that the lower pressure may also help the 243 barrel life a little H1000 is starting to become my go to powder
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:59 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

Oh, one other thing...

My current .243 load is max load of RL22 with a Fed210M primer in Winchester brass all behind a 105 A-MAX. I am very happy with this load.

Issue is during work-up, I tried WLRM primers behind the max load of RL22 and had pressure signs. I had to back down to a standard primer.

Pressure signs were shiny brass heads with extractor ring marks.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:40 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

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You are by no means wasting powder! In fact 47 grains of H1000 and 87 grain berger shoots amazing in my factory 243 and my new custom will get H1000 under a 105 Berger I Realy like H1000 in the 243 great velocity amazing acuracy and some reaserch is showing that the lower pressure may also help the 243 barrel life a little H1000 is starting to become my go to powder
Thanks for the info. What kind of velocities were you getting with 47grs of H1000 behind that 87 gr Berger? Also what primer were you using? I forgot to mention what you said about barrel life too. From some of the research I've done, a lot of people said that the H1000 would extend the barrel life, which would be a nice bonus if this combo works. I really wanted to spit 95 gr Bergers out of this rifle, but it has a 1:10 twist barrel. When I'm through with this barrel I plan on having a nice custom barrel installed with a 1:9 so I can spit some bigger pills out there. I absolutely love the .243 as a caliber. From deer all the way down to prarie dogs, it's my go to gun. For shots longer than 500 yards on deer, and game any bigger than a deer I use my 7mm.

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Oh, one other thing...

My current .243 load is max load of RL22 with a Fed210M primer in Winchester brass all behind a 105 A-MAX. I am very happy with this load.

Issue is during work-up, I tried WLRM primers behind the max load of RL22 and had pressure signs. I had to back down to a standard primer.

Pressure signs were shiny brass heads with extractor ring marks.
Thanks for that. I think you will probably be right about the primer. I loaded some 22-250 rounds for a friend and he forgot to bring his WLR primers, so I used my WLRM's. I had pressure signs before I even got close to the max suggested load. Once he brought the right primers, we were good to go all the way up to the max suggested load (Info from Load Data, using Varget powder) and then some.


Thanks for the info so far guys, keep it coming.
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Savage 111 Trophy Hunter XP 7mm Rem Mag
Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x44 EBR-1 MOA scope
BlackHawk 0 Moa picatinny rail
BlackHawk 30mm rings
BlackHawk Bipod
Rifle Basix Sav-2 Trigger
168gr Berger VLD Huning Bullets
Remington Brass
WLRM Primers
H1000 69.4 grains
Bullets seated .010" off the lands

Howa 1500 .243
Nikon Prostaff BDC 3-9x40
Custom Cherry Wood Stock (Action bedded, barrel floated)
Winchester Brass
87 gr Berger VLD
WLR Primers
Still working on load
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:45 PM
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Re: H1000 in a .243 with 87gr Berger VLD's

I use 47.0 Grains H1000 - 105 Bergers- Lapula Brass - CCI 250 Primers

2975 FPS - 22 Inch Brux 7.5 Twist
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