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Getting weird flyers with Berger 300gr OTMs

 
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:58 AM
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Re: Getting weird flyers with Berger 300gr OTMs

I have had 3 different Weatherby accumark 338-378's that shot the 300 gr SMK under 1/2 moa with 300 gr SMK seated at 3.8 mag box limit. The sierra's have shot better for me in several rifles compared to the bergers. The bergers shot well but I have almost always got tighter groups with the SMK. I really would have no need to look anywhere else because the sierras are just plain flattening game and shoot extremely well way out there past 1000
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:25 AM
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Re: Getting weird flyers with Berger 300gr OTMs

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I don't know if my chest waders are high enough to wade into this BS!! Every Weatherby I've loaded for has shoot Berger very sub MOA, my personal WBY has never shot under an 1.5 inches with every Barnes bullet made for the 30 cal but within half a box of 210 Bergers it's humming!

I've dug dozens of Barnes bullets out of game that had no nose and just a bent stubby shank left that deflects and quits penetrating, I watched a poor guy shoot a nice bullet three times in the chest with a 300 WBY and 165 Barnes and every single bullet opened up and blew the tip of and stopped penetrating, thee only hole through the of side lung was from my 270 WSM with a 140 Berger.
Not to mention the Barnes will be in the dirt like a brick by the time the range starts getting interesting. I know of no single ELR shooting nut that shoot a Barnes bullet!!
I never had a barnes bullet just bend ever or fail in the way you describe...I have never needed more than one shot on elk deer or any other animal...The big difference I see is how well bergers group at longer distance as Jeff stated,,, but
barnes kill animals just as fast as bergers at 1000 yards in my rifles anyway and have never let me down...In your case new waders are in order...Cabelas has them on sale right now..It is much easier to answer a post like jeff did or others
without being so cynical..have a great day.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:50 PM
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Re: Getting weird flyers with Berger 300gr OTMs

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I never had a barnes bullet just bend ever or fail in the way you describe...I have never needed more than one shot on elk deer or any other animal...The big difference I see is how well bergers group at longer distance as Jeff stated,,, but
barnes kill animals just as fast as bergers at 1000 yards in my rifles anyway and have never let me down...In your case new waders are in order...Cabelas has them on sale right now..It is much easier to answer a post like jeff did or others
without being so cynical..have a great day.
You know your right, my attitude has degraded very badly and contributed nothing to this thread, apology to the OP!!

As a note, I used to cut wildgame for a living and have pulled many Barnes bullets out of animals that were stripped of the nose and petals and usually just a bent shank, I've had it happen when all I shot was Barnes.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:41 PM
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Re: Getting weird flyers with Berger 300gr OTMs

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You know your right, my attitude has degraded very badly and contributed nothing to this thread, apology to the OP!!

As a note, I used to cut wildgame for a living and have pulled many Barnes bullets out of animals that were stripped of the nose and petals and usually just a bent shank, I've had it happen when all I shot was Barnes.
No apologies needed, I enjoy reading these responses and seeing the passion and real life experience people have had. And I learn some stuff. I am always wary of extreme statements on any topic: all Bergers do this, Barnes never do that, all xxx factory rifles shoot .001MOA, etc. Well, with the exception that I never pull a shot. That is FACT.

I will post results when I re-shoot the Bergers, and also how the SMKs fare in my rig. Then all you will have to wonder is if I am relatively competent and honest, or if I am shooting at 20 yds and pulling every third shot because I have a personal agenda against Berger.

Despite my occasional flyer, I am not yet open to trading my set-up and 200 Berger OTMs for a Weatherby and a like number of Barnes. YET...
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