Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
Thats the best statement of the entire thread.
He said that she said that we said, don't count for squat and I to don't consider Chucker to a Forrester an upgrade but rather a lateral move.
Both have their quirks and strong points. With a Forrester, you have to set the adjustable shell plates instead of using shell holders and unless you get the Forrester Co-Ax priming tool, you'll stell need shell plates (or a derivative) to prime so why not just keep the chucker.
The Forrester has a better leverage ratio than the chucker so if you are FL sizing magnum length cases, thats an advantage but the fiddle factor on a Forrester is much higher than a Chucker or a Lee or a Lyman. I don't want to fiddle, Drop in a shell holder, set the die and size brass.
OK, back to square one! The adjustable shell shell holder is over hyped from the start, and you actually don't need it to hold the case, but you'll want it to extract the case from the die! Now I also know that every member of the board loads a little differently than the next guy. People have often looked over my shoulder with that "is he nuts?" look! OK, you don't like those sliding jaws, but you also don't have to use them. Yes you can use the non adjustable holders as well. I would never consider using them in that press. But others do of course, and it's their own business.
I have my sliding jaws setup very loose on the press. I even went so far as to grind three or four thousandths off them. When I adjust the jaws I also leave that part pretty loose as well, and only grip the case strong enough to pull it out of the die. I can size a .223 case, and then swap dies to a 22-250 without ever making any adjustment. I do flip jaws when doing mag cases and some rimmed hand gun cases. (I have not readjusted my jaws this year!) But I also have a bitch about the jaws not doing 22 Hornets and 45-70's without buying another set of jaws.
One thing I'd like to see Forster do, is to come out with a couple optional handles that will put your wrist parallel with the presses bolster plate. You'll find you may see a little better feel. Too much leverage can also create other problems when something is going wrong. I tend to size at a very fast pace once I have the setup rolling along. So you must always be aware of pressure changes and little bumps in the feel. When I first started using my press, I liked to wore out Fred Sinclair's ear two or three times a week! But he was always there for me, and I thank him to this very day.
The press is much nicer to use with a riser between the bench and the bottom of the press. Right now I'm using a 6" one (maybe 7.5"), but have used them from as low as 4" all the way up to 9". First one I built simply elevated the press. But after that I started experimenting with rolling the press back a little bit at an angle (I think I'm using 20* right now). Kind of helps you see things better, and really helps us old folks that wear bifocals!