Originally Posted by boomtube
Chinese press castings are a tip of the iceberg.
Few manufactors willingly "take jobs" away. State and federal taxes and regulations make manufactoring prohibitively expensive for much of the potential market. That forces manufactors to either close shop or find another source of parts. Big labor unions don't help. I don't like it but I'd rather see Chinese/Mexican mafe devices I can afford than home stuff I can't afford.
Liberal greenie-weeinies can't grasp that there can and should be be a balance between no regulations and regulating things to death so they regulate to death. (And then they whine about businesses "exporting American jobs.") So, our manufactoring, mining, etc, are virtually gone, our food, fuel and electicity costs are out of sight and the people behind it all now stand between us and "affordable" health insurance.
1. can you name me one single union made reloading device?
2. I'll totally agree with you about the corporate tax structure in the USA
3. The EPA is the one serious culprit in this issue, and the other is the grand scheme to get a higher return on the dollar invested. In other words a higher profit margin. You can still get a steady supply of cast iron castings done in the USA and Canada today, but the over all cost is a littler higher due to the use better equipment. The difference is casting cost from one fifteen years ago and now would probably be about 50%, or about ten dollars (volume is the issue). In China they are getting them for about two dollars a piece unqualified. ( a qualified casting is pre machined and ready to mount in a fixture)
4. When we think of the Japanese we think of high industrialization, and technology. Japanese do little iron or aluminum castings these days, and farm that work out to Korea and Taiwan. They do not do critical work in China for several reasons besides intellectual property theft. On the otherhand their aircraft industry usually have their aircraft castings and forgings done in the United States for a reason. Quality! On the opposite side they do all their ball bearing work in Japan, and closely guard their processes. (not that they will ever be as good as a Barden or Fafnir)
5. now we call out RCBS for out sourcing work to Asia. But often look the otherway at Hornaday and Lyman. They're all guilty! And please don't tell me you can no longer buy castings in North America, because they're done daily in all sizes of foundries. And 95% of them are non union, and EPA certified. The real reason is the almighty dollar over 3.2 million folks looking for a job.
6. in a typical O frame press there is about a half hour of machine work in the frame, assuming that somebody out there is a good process engineer. There's actually more time in the ram! A decent machine center will spit the frames out every fifteen minutes max. After that you hone the bore to fit the ram, and that takes about fifteen minutes max. The ram uses most of it's machining time due to it's setups and material.