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Finding the right load for a 30-06

 
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Finding the right load for a 30-06

Powder, bullet or both?
I reloaded some 30-06 rounds for a Browning X bolt looking for that load that would match the gun. I used both IMR 4064 and Ball C powder. I loaded 15 rounds from each with powder weight between 46.7 grains and 48.7 grains. The bullets I used were Speer Spitzer BT and Sierra Spitzer in 180 gr.

Imr 4064 powder Speer Spitzer BT 180 Gr. bullet
3 rounds 46.7 gr. avg. velocity 2481
3 rounds 47.2 avg. velocity 2508
3 rounds 47.7 avg. vel. 2529
3 rounds 48.2 avg. vel. 2577
3 rounds 48.7 avg. vel. 2665

Ball C powder Speer Spitzer BT 180 gr. bullet
3 rounds 46.5 avg. vel 2421
3 rounds 47.0 avg. vel. 2465
3 rounds 47.5 avg. vel. 2501
3 rounds 48.0 avg. vel. 2512
3 rounds 48.5 avg. vel. 2553

Ball C powder Sierra spitzer 180 gr. bullet
3 rounds 46.6 didn't record vel.
3 rounds 47.0 avg. vel. 2463
3 rounds 47.5 avg. vel. 2514
3 rounds 48.0 avg. vel. 2565
3 rounds 48.5 avg. vel. 2542

Shot 1 round from load 1 then 1 from load 2 at different target then 1 from load 3 at different target ect. until all 15 loads were fired. waited between 2-3 minutes before each shot for barrel to cool. After 15 rounds cleaned barrel and went to next load. Cases were trimmed to 2.484 and COAL was 3.197. Did not get good groups on any load. At the end of day shot 3 factory loaded 165 grain core-loc and shot the best group. Want to load own because it is fun, cheaper and hopefully i can get better results.

Sorry this thread is so long. My question is should I try different powder same bullets, different bullets same powder or find a totally new combination? Was thinking about trying 165 gr. bullets but I am not sure they are enough to put an elk down. Will not be shooting farther than 300 yards. Any suggestions?

Thanks.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:54 PM
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

Those aren't necessarily the bullet/powder choices I would've gone with. But, you should still be able to get decent results.

Brass prep, concentricity, primers, etc all have a bearing as well.

Just glancing at one reloading manual indicates that the acceptable range for IMR4064 with a 180gr Sierra SBT is from 43.0 to 49.0gr. So, I wonder if you tested a wide enough range.

Do you know about how far off the lands you are with that COAL?
It seems a little short. I often start my load development with about .010-.015" jump.

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Old 02-14-2012, 06:21 PM
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

Also if its a factory rifle with a small barrel profile 2-3 min is not long enough between shots you need to do 10 min. And I hope your testing at a min distance of 200 yards.

You need to post the ES and SD numbers you should see a spot in all the data where the ES and the SD are very low this is a good starting point.
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

I'd either use a much slower powder with the 180s (my favorite is H4831, with H414/Win760 right behind) or use a much lighter bullet (150s) with those powders. I think you've picked some powders that are just too fast to do well with the heavy bullets. In my experience, this can work, but you usually need to be up near max charges to make it work. I think it's easier to go with a better burn speed powder for the bullet weight you've chosen.

Have fun with it,

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:04 PM
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

I have to agree with other replys on this thread, there are a few variables to consider with primers brass prep and so on. For a 180 class bullet you should be looking at H or IMR 4350 H-4831 RL-19 or RL-22. Your rifle is going to dictate what powder and bullet it likes and what distance to the lands to give you the best accuracy. My current load in my one and only 30-06 is the 180 AB over 57.6 grains of H-4350 using older Winchester brass and CCI-200 primers out of a 24" barrel this load gives me 2740 fps average. Not a screaming load by todays standards but it puts 3 in to one hole at 100 yards day in and day out. Consistantly under one inch at 200 and has killed quite a few deer, moose and black bears. I will have to check my notes but IIRC my jump is .086 to the lands which gives me an oal of 3.39. You are going to have to do a bit of work to see what your rifle likes. If you plan on using the AB start off with the 180 ballistic tip and work up a load that is accurate. Then back down a couple of grains and work back up with the AB. This will save you some dollars in bullet cost and in my experience an accurate load with the balistic tip is so close to an accurate load with the AB it ain't funny. The good old 06 with a good 180 grain bullet has killed more elk than we could probably count and if you are limiting yourself to 300 yards or less you should not have a problem if you put the bullet where it needs to go.
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

In addition to the other loads posted,I've had good luck with Ramshot Big Game and Hunter powders.55.5grs of Big Game with 180gr bullets give me 2780fps.58.0grs of Hunter with a 180gr bullet give me 2740fps.These are ball powders and meter really well.
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Re: Finding the right load for a 30-06

Thank you all for the advice. I have some 4831 and I will try that powder. I will try the ladder test this time instead of the Optimal charge weight load development. I am somewhat of a novice at reloading so I am not familiar with the highlighted abbreviations below. Could someone explain what they refer to? Thanks again for all you responses.

You need to post the ES and SD numbers you should see a spot in all the data where the ES and the SD are very low this is a good starting point.

I will have to check my notes but IIRC my jump is .086 to the lands which gives me an oal of 3.39.

If you plan on using the AB….
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