Extreme spread

Any help appreciated
I am reloading a .222 x 45 degree improved.
Norma cases which are very consistent.
Using a neck sizer and expander ball to .001 under loaded diameter.
Not neck turning - but have all this gear on order.
Do not have neck bushing sizer.
use sliding collet projectile seater.
Measuring each powder charge of appropiate burn rate powder.
tried 3 different primers - Fed 205M; CCI BR4 and Winch SR.
I am getting excesive velocity extreme spreads with 53 SMK and 55 VMax which are my preferred projectiles.
Tried different seating depths.
WHY?????????

APB

[dcb]

What barrel twist?
Just a guess but have you tried lighter bullets.
It could be, not enough tension on the bullet, especially if there is a fair ammount of jump to the lands.
if I load light tension i seat into the lands. with the bullet jammed i have a good burn on the powder,
Also I have found that stick powders work better in my duece

[goodgrouper]

Try what dcb said and also switch powders. Try some H322, or Benchmark. The right powder for the gun can make all the difference. The duece improved should not be finicky with powders though, so it may be something more serious. What is the condition of your barrel?

dcb/goodgrouper
Thanks for your input. I have just had a new 1/12 Lilja installed on this rifle. The twist rate was chosen to shoot the 55 VMax projectiles. It is a 6 groove - I ordered a 3 groove but their 3 groove button broke and it was going to take several months extra wait.
I have found from experience with previous barrels that the best combination of accuracy and velocity is achieved with a powder made here in Australia by Mulwex. It is called Benchmark 1 and I am unsure whether this is similar to the powder you mention. It is a stick powder and one of it's great benefits is that it is not temperature sensitive. I know Mulwex exports powder to the USA but I think it is sold under another brand name over there. Maybe Hodgon's??
I have a mild entry to the throat of 1 degree 30 minutes and tried different seating depths yesterday.
Seated to touch lands or zero jump ES was 64fps and 96 fps on 2 separate 5 shot groups.
Seated .015 into lands ES did drop to 39fps but accuracy was so so and I need to check again. This COL is not entirely satisfactory as it is too long for my magazine.
As a trial [chasing an accuracy issue also] I loaded 5 at .030 into lands which jumped back up to 60fps ES. Velocities increased as expected with resultant pressure increases.
The initial tests have been at 110 yds and tracking the group formation shows that the extreme velocity deviation rounds are not the fliers. I know that the longer ranges will start to show a difference however and I want to reduce this erratic ES.
APB

[GREYGHOSTt]

change brand of brass.

[goodgrouper]

I am afraid that at this point, you have to enter into the process of elimination to find the culprit.
Brass, bullets, powders, seating depths, primers and so on. You might need a total load overhaul, and even then it might not fix. I had a .220 swift that shot 1/4" groups at 100 yards all the time, but I could never ever get the sd down below 20. I tried every trick in the book and no luck. I did proceed to kill chucks out to 700 yards though so I guess it wasn't too bad. But I know what you're going through and it is frustrating. Keep us up to date on your experiments!

[dcb]

couple more questions, the norma brass that you use how many times have you fired it and with how many diffrent loads/powders?. if its all new brass. it could be that it need be fire formed to your chamber before you start load developement. then if it is fire formed with a few diffrent loads and the brass is mixed you could be getting diffrent internal volumes? Are you using Moly?? I have been using 26.5 grs, WW760 powder,WW primers seated 2.702" to the Ojive with a 40gr vmax in my sako, it likes a lot of jump. this is a slightly compressed load very consistent SDis 8.7, only thing it's a little dirty.