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08-06-2009, 10:26 AM
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Effective range
Hey guys-
I don't know where else to post this question, but I figured you guys would know the answer to this, and have some educated opinions. On a 180gr 30 cal bullet, how much energy is required to kill an elk, deer, and black bear. I know that the answer will be different for each animal. I'm just looking at my ballistic card, and trying to figure out my effective range for each animal as far as energy required. Any links to this info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Scott
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08-06-2009, 11:07 AM
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Re: Effective range
More important that energy is bullet performance. A 180 FMJ that delivers 2500 pounds of energy meens little. A 180 Soft nose that opens nicely and only delivers 1000 pounds is MUCH more effective than the FMJ with 1.5 times the energy. Energy in ONLY an mathematical equasion. The transfer of energy and damage done due to expansion is WAY more important than energy in and of itself.
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08-06-2009, 12:16 PM
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Re: Effective range
Well, I just got an email back from Nosler saying thier hunting Ballistic tips need 1600fps to perform, and the Accubonds need 1800fps. I'm still waiting to hear back from Barnes on thier 180gr 30 cal TSX bullets.
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08-06-2009, 02:33 PM
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Re: Effective range
Conventional wisdom says you need 1500lbs of energy for elk and 1000lbs for deer. Although I'm not sure, I would think black bear would be in the same range.
Heed Michael's advice too....energy is one thing. The ability of your bullet to transmit that energy is another. You need the whole package, velocity, energy and proper expansion.
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08-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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Re: Effective range
Check the game regulations in the state you want to hunt in. Some like Colorado spell out their minimum requirements that you need to meet - both caliber and energy. Not that I would choose my caliber or load off that. Sometimes I wonder where they come up with that info. The hair brains in Minnesota now say a .223 is a legal caliber. Wouldn't be my choice for a Northern deer.
Make sure you atleast meet the state minimuns. Lots of good advice in what others have posted.
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08-06-2009, 04:43 PM
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Re: Effective range
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Originally Posted by SamuraiTrapper
I'm still waiting to hear back from Barnes on thier 180gr 30 cal TSX bullets.
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1800 FPS for the TSX and TTSX 30 cal 180 grain on a water based test medium.
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08-06-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Effective range
Don't forget to check out Berger Bullets, they have good offerings in 30 cal.
Also www.bulletsamples.com is the place to buy small numbers of different bullets for testing..
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