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Unread 11-19-2010, 06:05 PM
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Die recommendations

I am in the market for a set of dies for my new 7WSM.

How much better are the Competition Seater dies from Redding than the others?

Any other suggestions?

Will be loading 180 Berger bullets.

Thanks,

Ryan
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    Unread 11-19-2010, 06:59 PM
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    Re: Die recommendations

    Although I have Redding competition seating dies for my three rifles, I don't think they are any better than the Forrster. Having the dial on top so that you can make .001 adjustments is nice. Once you use them, you won't want to use anything else.
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    Re: Die recommendations

    Your question is understandable but impossible to answer; there is no certain and clear-cut difference at all.

    Where the Forster/Redding seaters have an edge over others is design, not tolerances. Actually, if you have a conventional seater that has tolerances stacked toward perfection it can do as well as any. But most don't, so the F&R seaters full length body and bullet sleeves hold everything in alignment somewhat better before seating begins and that usually does a better job for concentricity than those without a full sleeve. Short sliding sleeve seaters (Hornady/RCBS) can make them a little easier to load with but I've never seen any evidence they load better than others.

    Comparing how much difference the full body/bullet alignment sleeves make involves not only the tolerances of both types of dies but the quality of the case necks AND the skill of the reloader. Loading high grade ammo can't be bought in a tool box of any color or cost, it must be assembled by a high quality reloader and that only comes with time and study! Bottom line, all we can say for sure is the F & R seaters do as well as can be done with threaded dies. Other so-called 'competiton' dies aren't in the same league, in fact they don't seem to do any better work on average than conventional seater dies.

    Micrometer heads do nothing for the quality of the ammo, they are only a user convienence.

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    Unread 11-20-2010, 09:47 AM
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    Re: Die recommendations

    My suggestion for optimum utility and minimal cost:

    Lee Collet Die
    Redding Body Die
    Forster benchrest or ultra Seater
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    Re: Die recommendations

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    I am in the market for a set of dies for my new 7WSM.

    How much better are the Competition Seater dies from Redding than the others?

    Any other suggestions?

    Will be loading 180 Berger bullets.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
    save some money and buy the Forster seater. It's better than the Redding at about 2/3rds the price
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    Unread 11-20-2010, 04:38 PM
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    Re: Die recommendations

    Buy an Arbor Press and Wilson Seating Die.
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    Unread 11-20-2010, 05:26 PM
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    Re: Die recommendations

    Ditto to Moose, #4. But you will need a very good rifle and load plus be a very good shot to ever see any difference from standard dies.
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