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Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

 
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:50 AM
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Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

I had a different thread going that brought up some great conversation about "Breaking in" a new barrel and I thought the discussion was worth a new thread to get more input from everybody. What are your thoughts or opinions on breaking in a new barrel, is it worth it?

Also think this would be a good time to get everybody's inputs on their own personal process for cleaning a bolt action rifle (during and after "break in", if a break even occurred). I've been going through a new cleaning process for the past year or so with great results. But before I muddy the waters with my process I would just like to hear from a few guys first to get the discussion going!
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:18 AM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

Factory rifle...why bother?

With a precision match barrel..why not?
I shoot one clean one for the first two or 3 rounds.
The first round always jacket fouls heavily.
The second round usually fouls less and on the 3rd round there is no fouling to be had.
I'm done.

Does it matter? I don't know. I think my barrels come up to peak accuracy quicker this way, but I admit it is hard to tell.
My precision barrels never jacket foul, but I know guys that say the same thing that just shoot their rifles.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:30 AM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

An alternative to the benchrest regimen. The entire series is worth your time.

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Old 05-20-2013, 03:32 PM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

In terms of break-in, I really don't think there is a lot to gain by following a very intense and involved process. Even the guy in that video mentions there is not a lot to gain when dealing with a custom barrel.

X-man, what you said is right on track with what I'm planning for my new rifle.

In terms of general cleaning I've been following advice from Jim borden. he has a couple of good articles on his website. One great point he makes is that the more corrosive copper solvents are not good for 416 stainless barrels. I've basically been following his process which has not only saved me alot of time, but my rifles seem to foul less as well.

http://www.bordenrifles.com/clean_edited_april2010.pdf
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:06 PM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

I broke in 1 of my 8 rifles and I can't tell the difference between broken in or not. I know guys who like to break them in and others that dont. I think its just a personal opinion.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:25 AM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

I sort of follow Bartlein cleaning method

Bartlein Barrels, Inc. - Break In/Cleaning


I'll clean for about the first 1 to 5 rd fired and most times after 3/4 rd fired I'm ready to shoot a group and that's about the end for me. I do agree with Jim on mixing cleaning solvent with Kroil and there nothing wrong with how he cleans either.

I do have set of rods for each caliber and their kept in Sinclair rod holders and I do like the Lucas bore guides.

I've never not done some type of barrel break-in or a new barrel I have put on, all I know is my barrels clean up pretty nice.
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:53 AM
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Re: Break in and cleaning of a new LR custom rifle

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Factory rifle...why bother?

With a precision match barrel..why not?
I shoot one clean one for the first two or 3 rounds.
The first round always jacket fouls heavily.
The second round usually fouls less and on the 3rd round there is no fouling to be had.
I'm done.

Does it matter? I don't know. I think my barrels come up to peak accuracy quicker this way, but I admit it is hard to tell.
My precision barrels never jacket foul, but I know guys that say the same thing that just shoot their rifles.
I recently bought a Brand New Factory Remington 5R Rifle in .300 Winchester Magnum. I bore sighted it and went to the range. At 100m (we're in meters over here in New Zealand, however, when it comes to ballistics I work in both imperial and metric measurements) it straight away hit the bull! The next three shots I fired dropped 6" to just clip the bottom of the A4 piece of paper I was shooting at. My mate, who was with me, claimed that was the "Fouling Shot"!

My goodness, "Fouling Shot" 6" away from the other shots at only 100 meters! I was working on a rifle that I hoped would shoot out to 600m and beyond. 6" linear out to 600m, that's 36" 'out' at that range, 3 FEET, that's one heck of a big animal I'd have to be shooting at to hit it on the first shot at that range, and then there's the other dilemma, whereby, if it was that big I'd be hopelessly "Under Gunned!"

I started researching this "Fouling Shot" and learnt that if your barrel is prone to copper build-up, due to it being new and not broken in, then that will throw the first shot on a clean barrel until it fouls and the consecutive shots will tend to group together better!

The secret is to break the barrel in by firing a shot, then cleaning "ALL" the copper out, then firing another and cleaning etc. until the barrel fouls less and less until, hopefully, doesn't really foul at all!

I rammed the borescope up my barrel and learnt that the first "third" of my barrel, immediately ahead of the chamber, was relatively clean and un fouled, same as the last third just before the muzzle, however, the middle third gets caked heavily with copper and I'm trying to desperately get that to clean with Bore Paste and shot, clean, shot etc.

So, bottom line is, I'm up to 4 shots/cleans now and I'm desperately hoping it will matter, "IF" I ever get it to stop fouling! (I say IF because there's no sign yet of the copper build-up abating!)

The alternate (Heaven Forbid) is to fire a fouling shot into the ground, immediately upon exiting my truck, as soon as I reach my hunting ground and risk scaring everything away... Beggar That!!!
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