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Brass tumbled, now what ???

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Re: Brass tumbled, now what ???

"...there will be some polish residue on the cases.
If this polish is Ammonia based then you want to remove any residue as Ammonia hardens brass!"

Ammonia is a liquid, it evaporates and dries. We will NEVER find any "ammonia residue" in dry cases any more than we could find "water residue" after it dries. By the time cases are tumbled, any tiny amount of ammonia has evaporated and it's GONE!

Ammonia IS harmful to brass. But the tiny amount in the small quanity of liquid polish we use in tumbling media is diluted so low as to make it pretty much irrelivant, and even that trace amount will evaporate out of the meda over night. When the cat-pee smell is gone, the ammonia is gone. Just don't wet clean your brass with a liquid polish containing ammonia and all will be well.
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    "...there will be some polish residue on the cases.
    If this polish is Ammonia based then you want to remove any residue as Ammonia hardens brass!"

    Ammonia is a liquid, it evaporates and dries. We will NEVER find any "ammonia residue" in dry cases any more than we could find "water residue" after it dries. By the time cases are tumbled, any tiny amount of ammonia has evaporated and it's GONE!

    Ammonia IS harmful to brass. But the tiny amount in the small quanity of liquid polish we use in tumbling media is diluted so low as to make it pretty much irrelivant, and even that trace amount will evaporate out of the meda over night. When the cat-pee smell is gone, the ammonia is gone. Just don't wet clean your brass with a liquid polish containing ammonia and all will be well.
    This is what the cartridge case manufacturers want you to believe.
    Any contact with Ammonia even for short periods of time reacts with the brass to some degree causing some hardening. Thats why it cleans the brass it reacts with the copper and zinc of the case .

    There will still be some residue from Ammonia reaction on the brass and this is what you want to remove before it gets in your dies and chamber.
    Any polish will leave some residue of some kind.
    If you want to use Ammonia based cleaners go right ahead but I don't.
    Cartridge manufacturers don't either they use dilute acids to clean brass .
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    I use walnut shells, no polish. Walnut shells will last a lot longer than corn media. If you really need to get them real shiney, then use corn media and polish.

    Guess I missed something here??? Is this virgin brass? Have cases already been sized?

    My usual sequense is, tumble, decap/size, trim (if needed), size again (if needed), primer, charge, seat. Oh well....

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    Guess I missed something here??? Is this virgin brass? Have cases already been sized?
    They are once fired Federal brass, they were already de-primed, re-sized, de-burred, before I decided to invest on a tumbler.

    Thanks.

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    They are once fired Federal brass, they were already de-primed, re-sized, de-burred, before I decided to invest on a tumbler.

    Thanks.

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    Looks like you missed out on half the fun
    Please elaborate.
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    Please elaborate.
    The fun of....

    depriming, sizing and deburring.
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