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Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

 
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

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FL with 0.001-0.002 shoulder bump each time...



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I don't mean to be real stupid here but how can you tell if you have bumped it 0.002 or 0.02. Where do you measure this from or at or around? I mostly shoot weatherbys and not even Roy Wby knew were the shoulder was. all I know to do is if it doesn't chamber then squash it some more.
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Old 12-11-2005, 10:36 AM
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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

WAsn´t this froggy using a custom fl die without bushings but with an especially ordered neck tension result?=

If one can´t get hold of a custom fl die, I think the fl die with bushings does make a lot of sense.. I already asked these questions and now I am sure that when going afield, FL gives you uniform cases and no feeding ( bolt closing) problems.
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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

Middle of the shoulder via...

http://www.stoneypoint.com/headspace_tech.html

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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

I should have known that asking the question would cost me money. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

Jim -- bushings work too to compare headspace... i.e. use a 30 cal bushing on a 6.5cal round, or 338 on a 30cal.

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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

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<font color="purple"> My neck sizing die changes neck diameter by .005", from fired to resized, with no expander ball. My FL die changes neck dimension .020" from fired to resized without expander. ....expander ball... to much work hardening with it... and then there are the accuracy issues of expander balls, ... </font>

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.005 reduction in neck diameter sounds great for BR and a disaster for the field (unless you have a very tight neck). In general not good advice (IMAO).

Listen to froggy, loose the expander balls.

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Im not sure how tight you call tight bigbore [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Those specs are with federal brass, .016" neck thickness, sized on a .3055" mandrel in a lee collet die, fired in a factory chambered, factory Savage barrel. This barrel is actually slightly larger in the neck than the last one, by a thousandth or so.

Why does that sound like a disaster in the field?
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Re: Body Die or Full Length Die for Shoulder Bump?

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Who or where do have your body dies made with the .001 to .002 shoulder and body resizing over chamber size?
I presume these are neck collet style as well?
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